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The Werewolf Game #2961

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  

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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 04:02PM Aug 20, 2013

The customers were a little perturbed to find one of their own brutally murdered, a slight overreaction to a shortfall of a few dollars, one might have thought. Or perhaps someone overheard claims of Back to the Future being "lame", a heinous opinion deserving of severe punishment.

The food safety officer watched on, checking his forms for a section marked "murders and/or tip related violence", a narrative ploy to inform you all that the Seer is still alive. The waiting staff looked on. "If they think this is bad, it's just the tip of the iceberg."

ROUND 2 CHALLENGE
The results of the first challenge were pretty interesting so I'm just going to run it again.
Today's meal is $88.88.
As before, wolves, PM me your expected tips, humans, the tip you are leaving.

Humans must win this challenge to remain in with a chance of getting the Seer Table.


---This message was edited on 2013-08-21 01:20:03---

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 04:02PM Aug 20, 2013

crap we were way off

SPVing


"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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dfamina


Posted: 04:06PM Aug 20, 2013

Not only that, but at least one of the wolves thinks VERY highly of themselves.

SPV.
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nicatsAus


Posted: 04:08PM Aug 20, 2013

dang slam is a good player. Not sure where I want to vote yet will wait to see happened with the tips and more input.

Go Fast turn left - visit TWG Hints and Tips in the forum~
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 04:13PM Aug 20, 2013

Just gonna SPV right now bbl

Let the games, begin!
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SirHarA


Posted: 04:26PM Aug 20, 2013

Spider is a wolf.... Spider Putter Nicecats.... maybe dafi....is where I am at....

the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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nicatsAus


Posted: 04:45PM Aug 20, 2013

you always say I am a wolf Har...well your wrong this time. and why is chang voting chang?

Go Fast turn left - visit TWG Hints and Tips in the forum~
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 05:20PM Aug 20, 2013

Chang votes himself a lot, it's a little weird.

About last round, my vote was already on deb when I posted I thought she was human. I was just holding my vote because I didn't have a better idea. Scrub, however... I don't know.


Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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4demo


Posted: 05:24PM Aug 20, 2013

I haven't played with a lot of you before, so I'm guessing most of the votes so far are for SPV, correct? I'll hold off on voting for a bit since I know I'll be back a few times this round and would like more info first.

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:01PM Aug 20, 2013

Not really suspicious of Scrub, it makes no sense for a wolf to do something that blatantly odd, I don't really believe it to be a 'Freudian slip'

I'll meddle through last round a little bit see if I wanna go one way or the other


Let the games, begin!
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 07:04PM Aug 20, 2013

The only person who could benefit from a slammn eating is me since she ALWAYS comes after me regardless of my ID ...so thank you wolves

I feel like Har would be one to overshoot his worth tip-wise...


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"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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scrub88it


Posted: 07:20PM Aug 20, 2013

look at those tip ranges. Not just one, but all three wolves think too highly of their ability to serve tables.

I am not sure what information 4demo is waiting for. I will SPV for someone other than Deb who does not have a vote yet. Does anybody think they have a good explanation about how the game settles ties? I thought I knew, and then Changhill(I think) confused me a couple of games ago by suggesting the computer favors the side that is behind????
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changhill*us


Posted: 07:51PM Aug 20, 2013

Voting for myself gives me a tactical advantage (human or wolf). And it reinforces my philosophy, that if you think I am a wolf, you have my support* It's interesting to see dfamina vote for me so soon and not address a reason why. I am not used to being an early SPV.

@scrub, I think you have me mistaken for somebody else... I have had games where wolf was picked in round 1 in a tie. I am not sure how the system picks.

I will hold my vote current for the time being. Not sure what to make of the tip range, so I am ignoring it for now.


*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:02PM Aug 20, 2013

How come so many people want to find out the great mystery of how ties are broken..Unless some compelling evidence is revealed all signs point to.....

its chance
random
luck

also, i thought the point of the tips was for the wolves to strategically aim for a narrow a ranges as possible, so it would at least potentially, say nothing about how the wolves view what they really think they deserve as a tip.


---This message was edited on 2013-08-20 20:25:13---

Let the games, begin!
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 08:40PM Aug 20, 2013

Yeah, the point is to just aim for something narrow. But you have to admit it's pretty ballsy to put one so high...or maybe stupid

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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debc1A


Posted: 09:54PM Aug 20, 2013

ok forgot where it was but the point is for the humans to get into the tip range right?

for now i will vote someone randomly

edit
the wolves at least expect a 20% tip
if my math is correct
15% is the norm here, exceptional service could be more

are the wolves being realistic? or better yet do they have to be realistic?


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dfamina


Posted: 10:11PM Aug 20, 2013

Well chang, my vote for you was purely an SPV, but I could see you assigning yourself a ridiculous tip like that one just to be... well, you. I also agree with Harry that Har would grossly overstate his worth. I consider $13.50 to be about the maximum reasonable tip, and that's if the service was excellent, since it's 20%.
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changhill*us


Posted: 10:21PM Aug 20, 2013

I am less familiar with the whole theme of the game... I don't know what we gain from being within or not within the tip range. Smithy won't be on till later, so I am mostly just waiting it out.

It would depend on how the question of my worth was presented. If it's more a psych question, then I would be humble... but under no circumstance would I expect 30% tip ontop of a taxed meal.

@dfamina, I could be 'paranoid' (not really, since I am not worried about outcome), but SPVs usually have more thought behind than just pure randomness... or else we would have MoO.

People like to pick certain people, some avoid the 'best' players, and other use a multitude of different systems. I can't put my finger on it, but yours just seems out of place... and there were a few last round. I can tell if it's inactivity or faith.


*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:43PM Aug 20, 2013

Waaaaaay too much is being made out of this tip game, it was a simple game, the humans lost, we arnt getting anything, I really dont know what the wolves get, a TB perhaps or a seer clue I dont know. The tips were presumably strategically chosen by the wolves, or second to that as a mistake to the purpose of the game. This rush to criticism for the wolves selfishness on a hypothetical strategy game is hilarious to me

Hopefully things are popping by the morning and then Ill try to pick a direction for the round.


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Let the games, begin!
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4demo


Posted: 10:50PM Aug 20, 2013

scrub88 wrote:
I am not sure what information 4demo is waiting for.


Sorry, I misinterpreted the intent of the tip guessing game.

I'm not sure if reading too much into the 13.5% or 20% is super helpful though. In the U.S., a standard tip for good service is considered to be 15-20%, but that's probably not hard to look up (assuming it's not comparable in some other countries anyway).

I don't really have any other thoughts to go on right now, so SPV for dfamina.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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changhill*us


Posted: 11:18PM Aug 20, 2013

Vote changed, will be back in the morning. Till then

*rawr*
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 12:31AM Aug 21, 2013

I think the point of the tips is for the humans to earn a seer talk box and/or the right to join the seer talk box.

And the wolves expected tips maybe high just to not get a majority in that range so the wolves get the point.

Spv for tonight


I'm back
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SirHarA


Posted: 12:43AM Aug 21, 2013

Hey chang do you want to put a finger on MY system????
It's a 2 part plan......
1 Be predictably Un-predictable.....
2 Be consistently in-consistent....


BOOM that is it!!!!!

That said I am not feeling Spider...He is being too strong to be a wolf
Not feeling harry either....Neither of them tried to put the salmmi eating on me...which if they were wolves they would have....

I would never eat Slammi in round 1... I am cleared!!!!! wolves you better eat me!!!!!

all that said I am lost...
will move my vote to Koin Chang or dafi....


the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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Smithy*en


Posted: 01:22AM Aug 21, 2013

Round 2 challenge is up, same as first round, this time the meal costs £88.88.

"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:47AM Aug 21, 2013

@SirHar, what system?

*rawr*
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 02:33AM Aug 21, 2013

It's probably har...that's where I'm at so far

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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nicatsAus


Posted: 02:43AM Aug 21, 2013

Voting Har. Kinda at loss here. But my logical choice for him becUse he gives slamm a hard time in past rounds.

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SirHarA


Posted: 02:43AM Aug 21, 2013

my computer is fried...Log me in a tip of 21.12..a good RUSH album and it makes my bill 110.00

the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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dfamina


Posted: 06:14AM Aug 21, 2013

Chang, the only thought I put into my SPVs is that I try and cast it on someone different each time. This is the first time I've ever gotten flack for it, and if pressed, I'd have to say that I find it strange that it's all of a sudden a big deal, especially this early in the game. I know you don't usually make a lot of sense, but this is out there, even for you. Since I was the second voter of the round, I wasn't thinking about MoO.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:27AM Aug 21, 2013

Still waiting on votes from Cab and Jayo (which I suspect will come) I don't really find Chang all that suspicious, but him getting all bent out of shape because a person SPVd him early is a little....its odd is where I'll leave it.

Possibly looking at 4demo or 21K, 21K just seems to be pointing out things that have already been stated in an overly neutral manner, 4demo, not really sure, possibly just being unfamilar with her making her seem odd to me.


Let the games, begin!
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JayoAie


Posted: 07:35AM Aug 21, 2013

Voting Cab - will edit this in a minute...

Okay, Cabbie hasn't shown up yet so for the moment I'm happy to put a 2nd vote on her for now
I'll try to gauge a sucessful tip, I may have been overgenerous last time


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Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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4demo


Posted: 08:55AM Aug 21, 2013

chang, I don't understand why you switched your vote to dfamina. I have no reason to see him in particular get shot right now, so I'd love to hear an explanation or know if I should change my vote.

Mod request: If Sirhar is actually using 21.12 as his tip, can we disregard his for the round unless he PMs you directly? If he's a wolf, then it makes sense for all other wolves to also say 21.12 to minimize the margin; if he's human, then the wolves could easily find a range that doesn't include at least one tip. Even though the humans could just guess 21.12 in the first scenario and the different range could theoretically include every other tip in the second, still seems a little strange to me...


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:27AM Aug 21, 2013

Gonna switch to 21K for time being, though I will switch to Cab if she ends up not getting on, and will make my vote count rather than leaving it here if it doesnt pick up any steam

Let the games, begin!
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 10:43AM Aug 21, 2013

No had posted about the chance to earn the talkbox for the humans if they get the tips in the range this round and a lot of other people said things about the tip range but I say why I think they made it high and what I am suppose to be upset that the wolves got a point its not like they got anything and we can still win the other two points and win.

I'm back
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changhill*us


Posted: 11:05AM Aug 21, 2013

@4demo, I am gonna keep my vote... so if you feel like you need to change it because you believe in dfamina's humanness, then change it. I was using your vote.

I am just trying to get reactions from people and then start sorting through people. dfamina ans sirhar I am having trouble with (at the moment), could mean several different things. That they're both wolves, that one of them is the seer, or I am wrong about both. I didn't get the response I was expecting, so I will hold my vote, unless 4 demo changes it. But at this point, df is a suspect of mine.


*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 11:18AM Aug 21, 2013

21kaldridge21 voted for nicats
4demo voted for dfamina
changhill voted for dfamina
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
dfamina voted for changhill
HarryPutter voted for Jayo
Jayo voted for caberet
koin_era345 voted for 4demo
nicats voted for SirHar
scrub88 voted for caberet
SirHar voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for caberet


putting Cab in a majority


Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 11:21AM Aug 21, 2013

21kaldridge21 voted for nicats
The_Spider voted for 21kaldridge21
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
HarryPutter voted for Jayo
koin_era345 voted for 4demo
nicats voted for SirHar

scrub88 voted for caberet
Jayo voted for caberet

4demo voted for dfamina
changhill voted for dfamina

dfamina voted for changhill
SirHar voted for changhill


Keeping my list, cuz I like it better


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*rawr*
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 11:38AM Aug 21, 2013

But it's inaccurate since spid put Cab in a majority

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 11:45AM Aug 21, 2013

Expecting a post from 4demo shortly to address Chang's comment...otherwise, she is not quite off my radar this round

Let the games, begin!
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4demo


Posted: 12:15PM Aug 21, 2013

I've simply given up on trying to follow chang's reasoning, so I guess I'm center of your radar.

Nonetheless, not sure at the moment that dfamina is suspicious, so moving my vote to The_Spider.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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changhill*us


Posted: 12:23PM Aug 21, 2013

Right now there is limited logic to be made. So I am rely on emotional readings. If you're looking for solid reasons, then you will have to wait till round 3/4.

*rawr*
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caberetAus


Posted: 12:44PM Aug 21, 2013

Urgh. Sorry to almost miss a round. I'm super busy. I have to move. And it is suuuuuuch a big job.

I probably should bow out, but I hate to let my side down. Especially with only humans down so far.

I'm going to place a vote for Spider who seems to be iffy to me.


"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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debc1A


Posted: 12:45PM Aug 21, 2013

kevy=chang=mayhem thats all you need to know demo

sir smithy- is the response the wolves giving realistic? like in a prompt in who's the boss?

i am assuming yes right now, kinda rotten if it is not truthful, just saying

anyway i will keep my vote as is


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changhill*us


Posted: 12:54PM Aug 21, 2013

21kaldridge21 voted for nicats
4demo voted for The_Spider
caberet voted for The_Spider
changhill voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
dfamina voted for changhill
HarryPutter voted for Jayo
Jayo voted for caberet
koin_era345 voted for 4demo
nicats voted for SirHar
scrub88 voted for caberet
SirHar voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for caberet

-.-' Another vote change


*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 12:55PM Aug 21, 2013

For what possible reason?

Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:00PM Aug 21, 2013

I believe you to be a better shot than cab. (and myself)

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*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:00PM Aug 21, 2013

Howso?

Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:03PM Aug 21, 2013

Because that's what I believe...

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:05PM Aug 21, 2013

Ahh I see, but Dfam had to sell out on explaining a meaningless SPV at the beginning of the round

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Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:07PM Aug 21, 2013

Because I've been keeping my eye on her since round 1... you only came into scope within the past 20 mins or so.

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:30PM Aug 21, 2013

Yeah there's no kind way to say it...this is stupid, itd be nice if anyone around helps me out of this rather than just sits back and coasts the round out. I'm up for about 3 or 4 choices, and I would have no problems with a chang majority either as of one those. I don't really think he's a wolf, but I find his methods to be more self aggrandizing and destructive than anything else.

21kaldridge21 voted for nicats
4demo voted for The_Spider
caberet voted for The_Spider
changhill voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
dfamina voted for changhill
HarryPutter voted for Jayo
Jayo voted for caberet
koin_era345 voted for 4demo
nicats voted for SirHar
scrub88 voted for caberet
SirHar voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for caberet


Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:34PM Aug 21, 2013

Last round you stated that you were looking at dfamina. Care to state your findings?

*rawr*
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 01:34PM Aug 21, 2013

I'm throwing my vote on chang to make things interesting

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:35PM Aug 21, 2013

I stated my feelings last round, exactly when the appropriate venue to do so would have been

were I to persist in voting dfam, I would most certainly be explaining why


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4demo


Posted: 01:37PM Aug 21, 2013

Agh, why can't I vote for anybody without a majority forming on that person.

Switching my vote to chang. It's very possible that it's pure coincidence his votes keep mirroring mine, but it's also possible he's a wolf and trying to frame me, or I don't even know what other chaos this could be.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:40PM Aug 21, 2013

How would my copying of your vote be framing you? 4demo, I am sorry for forcing your hand. But people can't be indecisive, and your vote best reflected my interests...

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:53PM Aug 21, 2013

I'll still go 21K or possibly even 4Demo, but Im fine with staying on Cab....I dont see how scrambling to get your vote in and then saying 'dont know how much i can participate this game' (in round 2 no less) is a point in FAVOR of keeping someone around. The dynamic has changed, so I assume your vote for me must be more than 'better you than Cab' at this point?

21kaldridge21 voted for nicats
4demo voted for changhill
caberet voted for The_Spider
changhill voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
dfamina voted for changhill
HarryPutter voted for changhill
Jayo voted for caberet
koin_era345 voted for 4demo
nicats voted for SirHar
scrub88 voted for caberet
SirHar voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for caberet


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4demo


Posted: 01:54PM Aug 21, 2013

Sorry, chang, didn't mean to offend you! If you were a wolf, you could follow my vote; that way, if you were ever ousted in the wolf while I was still in the game, it could potentially cast suspicion on me. Of course, there could be other explanations or just coincidence, as I said.

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:56PM Aug 21, 2013

I think spider we had the discussion, on whether it was ever appropriate to shoot a known human. I believe in Cab's humanness than yours. And I certainly don't want to be it the majority, because I am sure of my humanness. I asked for alternatives, so I am willing to not shoot you and if you can offer something else. But if you offer is Cab, then I will refuse.

4demo wrote:
Sorry, chang, didn't mean to offend you! If you were a wolf, you could follow my vote; that way, if you were ever ousted in the wolf while I was still in the game, it could potentially cast suspicion on me. Of course, there could be other explanations or just coincidence, as I said.


You didn't offend me, I was more worried about offending you. I can see that possibility. Several games ago I followed Deb's vote. So it's one of many tactics in my arsenal.


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*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:58PM Aug 21, 2013

Well I don't know if you checked the voting list, but the status quo does not benefit you, but Ill think about explaining what Ive already stated (21K for instance) when I get home from work a bit later

which is sort of my point anyway, its no longer a matter of me vs Cab, so your vote must be on me for a specific reason as it could be on just about anyone else


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changhill*us


Posted: 02:01PM Aug 21, 2013

I have and will never worry about the status quo. At least until people start forming an actual opinion. I may/have ruffled some feathers, but until they can make a stand for something, they aren't in the place to criticize my stand.

***EDIT TO ADD***

Like I said, the opportunity to put you under the gun was spontaneous. I don't have any strong reason for my vote and since people have changed theirs... I slightly suspect you, but in no way are you at the top of the list.


---This message was edited on 2013-08-21 14:06:39---

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 02:05PM Aug 21, 2013

I don't know what that means really, at some point it could very well come down to Cab or you, so although you asked me to supply an alternative to Cab, the burden (atm at least) is on you to do so.

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changhill*us


Posted: 02:08PM Aug 21, 2013

The burden is only on me if I allow it to burden me. You stated earlier, that I was a human with a destructive behavior. So if you still believe that I am human, why not protect me?

***EDIT TO ADD***

Spider, you already know me willing to die for the 'greater good'.


---This message was edited on 2013-08-21 14:18:13---

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 02:11PM Aug 21, 2013

My vote for Cab currently represents your only and best chance to save yourself and I even promised to try for another alternative when I get home, while there is still a lingering threat to me. What else could you possibly want from me at this current juncture


and you cant ask somebody "why not protect me" when they try to do so, and YOU refuse to accept the terms (Cab)

but if you know you are human, protecting yourself is a greater good than saving Cab

as they say help me to help you, becuase your vote on me presents absolutely NO INCENTIVE for me to put forth any effort to help you, its one thing to be a martyr, its another to get in your own way for absolutely no reason


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changhill*us


Posted: 02:19PM Aug 21, 2013

I agree, that's why (I currently) refused your help. Because we could not agree on the situation of Cab.

***EDIT TO ADD***

If I was getting my way, I would not be asking for YOUR choice of alternative. And I would not be accepting of a majority against myself.


---This message was edited on 2013-08-21 14:21:25---

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 02:49PM Aug 21, 2013

What purpose does voting yourself serve

You ask for an alternative to the Cab majority I say I will present one...you do not offer one of your own to allow ME to work with YOU, and then you vote yourself? seriously how does this help the game in anyway except as a self serving grandstand?

and you were getting in your own way, its totally unreasonable to ask me "why arnt you protecting me" when

1) you do not accept my offered help (i understnad your reasoning though I totally disagree with it)

2) Do NOT offer a conuter solution

3) KEEP YOUR VOTE ON ME! So its not only MORE dangerous for me to help you it also gives me little incentive or willingness to be helpful towards you

No matter what you say, unless you are seer (which clearly you arnt) there is no reason to protect Cab ahead of yourself. You know you are human, you can say what you like you do not know Cab is human (you can say you do and based on probability be right most of the time) but unless you strongly suspect she is seer, which I dont see how you could, putting her in front of you is pointless.

There are very few candidates to be wolves this early, it comes down to utility. In the early going a 55% human with a 90% chance of being an intergral part of the game is better than a 60% chance human with a 10% of being integral to the game


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:02PM Aug 21, 2013

going to go ahead and vote Chang then

why someone would sac themselves for a person who admitted she might barely be able to play is beyond me, but it is what it is


---This message was edited on 2013-08-21 15:03:28---

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scrub88it


Posted: 03:04PM Aug 21, 2013

I have not played much with Chang. He sounds human, and is playing as he has when he was human. I don't think I have played with him when he was a wolf. But in the games I have played with him he has always lied about who he was when he stated who he was. I am changing to Chang because he says that he is human, and therefore I think the opposite is true.
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Smithy*en


Posted: 06:53PM Aug 21, 2013

Changhill was HUMAN.

Still waiting on some tips, if you haven't sent them yet do so ASAP (or if you're busy just go back in time and do it then).


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