The Werewolf Game
Game #2961: At Tipping Point
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This game finished in 8 rounds.
Apologies for delay here, Jayo was human.
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Wow, fast night. I'd at least like to hear from Smithy whether or not Jayo was a wolf before making any further conclusions, but my eye's on cab and/or deb right now, since each of them seemed to be gunning relatively heavily for koin at least at one point last round.
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I knew cj was an obvious human. Most likely I'll be eaten next, or the wolves think they can get me shot (not happening )
I feel like scrub is trustworthy. I'm starting to trust 4D a bit now since our suspects seem to be the same which usually happens with fellow humans. I'll wait for Jayo's ID before voting too, but I might be leaning toward Cab. That post where she basically admitted I was right about koin (and therefore I was a wolf for defending him ) makes me think she's a wolf.
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I feel like scrub is trustworthy. I'm starting to trust 4D a bit now since our suspects seem to be the same which usually happens with fellow humans. I'll wait for Jayo's ID before voting too, but I might be leaning toward Cab. That post where she basically admitted I was right about koin (and therefore I was a wolf for defending him ) makes me think she's a wolf.
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Well heck I missed the end of the round only to find the next one has started. (thats what I get for napping) I was looking at the voting and was thinking 4demo or dfamina. Cab was not really on my list but sometimes I tend to read to much into certain peoples posts when I think they are a wolf. HP seems to think Cab maybe the way to go. Just not sure. Sorry I didn't get my vote in. Most likely would not have voted for Jayo anyway. I will see what else I can come up with.
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I may have jumped the gun on thinking jayo was a sure wolf since it didn't make sense for koin to get eaten otherwise. Need to put a bit more thought into this before I vote.
You guys should note that I would definitely not eat koin in my position if I was a wolf since he was one of the few people definitively on my side last round, so that's just more evidence I'm likely human.
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You guys should note that I would definitely not eat koin in my position if I was a wolf since he was one of the few people definitively on my side last round, so that's just more evidence I'm likely human.
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HarryPutter wrote:
Not calling your bluff or anything, but I don't really like these kinds of arguments (which is not to say I never use them myself ). Assuming you're being honest, it overlooks the possibility that you might eat koin precisely because it would be an uncharacteristic or superficially bad move and then you could make this type of claim. (By you, I'm referring to people in general, not just HP!)
I'm still basically suspicious of everybody. Still perplexed by silence from dfamina even though he's logged on, so voting for him for now. I'll be out and about for most of the day but hopefully will check in a couple more times this round!
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
You guys should note that I would definitely not eat koin in my position if I was a wolf since he was one of the few people definitively on my side last round, so that's just more evidence I'm likely human.
Not calling your bluff or anything, but I don't really like these kinds of arguments (which is not to say I never use them myself ). Assuming you're being honest, it overlooks the possibility that you might eat koin precisely because it would be an uncharacteristic or superficially bad move and then you could make this type of claim. (By you, I'm referring to people in general, not just HP!)
I'm still basically suspicious of everybody. Still perplexed by silence from dfamina even though he's logged on, so voting for him for now. I'll be out and about for most of the day but hopefully will check in a couple more times this round!
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Dang it, Harry. Just when I convinced myself you were human, you had to go and do that thing that you do. Pointing out you wouldn't eat Koin. I am thinking the same thing as demo there.
I have been back through the posts and I believe I can make a case for everyone being a wolf but Dfamina.
For the moment, though, I am playing as if Harry is human. So the vote we had yesterday started as a human/human vote. And if I am correct, it finished that way too. I can't help but wonder if the less active players are not just letting us pick each other off.
I'd really like to hear what Cab and Deb think after last night's eating.
I have been back through the posts and I believe I can make a case for everyone being a wolf but Dfamina.
For the moment, though, I am playing as if Harry is human. So the vote we had yesterday started as a human/human vote. And if I am correct, it finished that way too. I can't help but wonder if the less active players are not just letting us pick each other off.
I'd really like to hear what Cab and Deb think after last night's eating.
great wolf hunting skills there
right now i think everyone is a wolf, except maybe cab
i think i will join the df vote why is he not here??
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right now i think everyone is a wolf, except maybe cab
i think i will join the df vote why is he not here??
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Ergh, only 1 wolf down so far? And no seer? I'm realizing yet again how much easier this game is when watching from the sidelines.
Dfamima may well be a wolf, but I hate to add the 2nd to last vote. I know we don't need to vote to protect our seer, yet I want to vote to be sure that it isn't only the wolves doing the voting. Yet, if humans are voting for humans, then perhaps the wolves are happy to watch from the sidelines. That way we're more likely to point fingers at other humans, and forget about the quiet wolves?
Urgh. now I've talked myself into voting for dfamia since I trust deb. Tho perhaps I trust her since she said she trusted me? No but also I do think she's human...
I have to go. Having an open house today and there's still sooooo much to do. I HATE moving.
Going to vote dfamina because it takes the least amount of thinking...
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Dfamima may well be a wolf, but I hate to add the 2nd to last vote. I know we don't need to vote to protect our seer, yet I want to vote to be sure that it isn't only the wolves doing the voting. Yet, if humans are voting for humans, then perhaps the wolves are happy to watch from the sidelines. That way we're more likely to point fingers at other humans, and forget about the quiet wolves?
Urgh. now I've talked myself into voting for dfamia since I trust deb. Tho perhaps I trust her since she said she trusted me? No but also I do think she's human...
I have to go. Having an open house today and there's still sooooo much to do. I HATE moving.
Going to vote dfamina because it takes the least amount of thinking...
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Wow really one of the ones on my list who might be wolf and only one more vote to end the round? what to do? end it or pick my other option and see what comes of it? Hum guess I will vote other option and leave discussion open and see what transpires.
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yep the whole tipping thing took me in a whole different direction
i really don't know about harry
not sure about demo
really am beginning to wonder about scrubs
if cab is a wolf, well, well done cabbers, because i think she is human
nic i like that you don't want to end the round
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i really don't know about harry
not sure about demo
really am beginning to wonder about scrubs
if cab is a wolf, well, well done cabbers, because i think she is human
nic i like that you don't want to end the round
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My point in that comment is that it doesn't make sense to take that risk >> I'm not saying it definitively clears me, but to get rid of one of the few people you think can influence just makes absolutely no sense tactically.
I'm not going to end the round since I'm in no rush here. My only hesitation with voting dfam is I don't understand the short nights in the context of him being a wolf.
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I'm not going to end the round since I'm in no rush here. My only hesitation with voting dfam is I don't understand the short nights in the context of him being a wolf.
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Valid point about dfamina and the short nights. i don't remember exact times, but I saw him online yesterday evening, so I think it's possible for him to have voted. Assuming the other wolf voted a little later or the random delay was at least a couple of hours, that seems plausible, perhaps?
That said, it does seem weird that if he was a wolf, he wouldn't be in the discussion at all especially when he's being discussed. (Of course, could be real life issues that suddenly came up, so I'm giving some leeway there.)
I'm super-confused on cab and deb right now, who seem to be semi-fluctuating between suspecting and trusting each other. I don't know if they're just good friends who like to joke around with each other (I used to do this, so it's a fair possibility). I think I'm going to switch my vote to cab for now... open to change.
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That said, it does seem weird that if he was a wolf, he wouldn't be in the discussion at all especially when he's being discussed. (Of course, could be real life issues that suddenly came up, so I'm giving some leeway there.)
I'm super-confused on cab and deb right now, who seem to be semi-fluctuating between suspecting and trusting each other. I don't know if they're just good friends who like to joke around with each other (I used to do this, so it's a fair possibility). I think I'm going to switch my vote to cab for now... open to change.
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I'm locking my vote in on deb now.
The only way I see scrub as a wolf right now is if 4demo is his partner.
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The only way I see scrub as a wolf right now is if 4demo is his partner.
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This game keeps coming back to the 21k vote. First Koin, then Harry and now dfamina. What I am trying to say is that until Cab every vote contributed to her death. Each of us could have chosen a different path, but did not.
I am voting 4demo to create an option not on dfamina, and because I still think the most likely wolves are the players who abstained in that vote.
I am playing slowly from my phone. I started writing before the last two postings. But I will stand behind my vote.
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I am voting 4demo to create an option not on dfamina, and because I still think the most likely wolves are the players who abstained in that vote.
I am playing slowly from my phone. I started writing before the last two postings. But I will stand behind my vote.
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I do find it interesting that Cab has not voted for a wolf even ONCE all game I'm actually going to be changing to her.
I don't think nicats is a realistic option as a wolf....
4demo voted for caberet
caberet voted for dfamina
debc1 voted for dfamina
HarryPutter voted for caberet
nicats voted for 4demo
scrub88 voted for 4demo
I'd prefer if deb was shot since I'm thinking the wolf pair is most likely 4demo/deb or Cab/deb.
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I don't think nicats is a realistic option as a wolf....
4demo voted for caberet
caberet voted for dfamina
debc1 voted for dfamina
HarryPutter voted for caberet
nicats voted for 4demo
scrub88 voted for 4demo
I'd prefer if deb was shot since I'm thinking the wolf pair is most likely 4demo/deb or Cab/deb.
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the reason why i am trusting cab as human is because if one of us is on the opposite side the other is dead
where is df?? i did not pay attention to long in times or if he was gone for a day
i am really beginning to think scrubs
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where is df?? i did not pay attention to long in times or if he was gone for a day
i am really beginning to think scrubs
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HarryP - Liar liar pants on fire! I did indeed vote for our only confirmed wolf so far! It was almost an accident (more impatience than anything else).
But only a wolf would know if my votes were right or not.
Deb - Lol were friends. But she scares me if she's human and I'm a wolf. So I eat her out of desperation! It's a compliment!
I'm on my phone and don't really know what I'm doing. So I'm off for now...
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
But only a wolf would know if my votes were right or not.
Deb - Lol were friends. But she scares me if she's human and I'm a wolf. So I eat her out of desperation! It's a compliment!
I'm on my phone and don't really know what I'm doing. So I'm off for now...
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
That wasn't a pivotal moment but I guess that's true, I overlooked that.
I'd rather vote deb
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I'd rather vote deb
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harry i am going to have to get my fly swatter after you
i am human
look elsewhere
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i am human
look elsewhere
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Haha deb chasing Harry with a flyswatter. Usually when deb is a wolf she doesn't really beg that she is human she just shifts the convo the other way so that is why I am thinking she is human right now. I am keeping my vote on 4demo I have to head to work in a short. Round will prob be over by the time I go on break and head back to the game.
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hmmm
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Deb - think what you want about me because you know I never say which side I am on, but I am believing you more and more are human. Your shift to 4demo last round helped a long way in that. I have never played a game with you where you said you were human and you were not.
All I keep trying to do is create majorities for people who did not vote 21k and you keep voting for people who did vote 21k.
All I keep trying to do is create majorities for people who did not vote 21k and you keep voting for people who did vote 21k.
Sometimes the closing your eyes / flipping a (three sided?) coin approach pays off - another member of staff was ejected from the establishment, leaving one poor soul to wait on the (dwindling) customers. Cab was a wolf.
Incidentally, I believe my dwindling customer base may be something to do with a rival opening up nearby, ripping off my idea. No doubt The_Spider's big plans will involve a Big Mac to the Future meal or something. Saying that, it may also be because of the outrageously negative publicity my beloved establishment is receiving after the succession of recent deaths. Probably a combination of those two things.
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Incidentally, I believe my dwindling customer base may be something to do with a rival opening up nearby, ripping off my idea. No doubt The_Spider's big plans will involve a Big Mac to the Future meal or something. Saying that, it may also be because of the outrageously negative publicity my beloved establishment is receiving after the succession of recent deaths. Probably a combination of those two things.
Shameless plug: While we wait for night to pass, why not amuse yourself by tackling my excellent new teaser?
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