The Werewolf Game
Game #2961: At Tipping Point
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This game finished in 8 rounds.
Down to one wolf, no Seer - I am officially redundant. I better let you lot get on with it, then.
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Never mind, was RFM.
Well, night didn't time out, so dfamina (who as of right now hasn't been on for two days) is ruled out.
I'm going to go back and check voting records and flying accusations...
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Well, night didn't time out, so dfamina (who as of right now hasn't been on for two days) is ruled out.
I'm going to go back and check voting records and flying accusations...
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Past voting involving cab:
Round 1
caberet voted for nicats (unknown)
4demo voted for caberet
Round 2
caberet voted for The_Spider (Seer)
Jayo voted for caberet (Jayo was eaten)
Round 3
caberet voted for 21kaldridge21 (wolf)
Round 4
caberet voted for HarryPutter (human)
Round 5
caberet voted for dfamina (human)
4demo voted for caberet
HarryPutter voted for caberet
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Last round, deb wrote:
and cab wrote:
Maybe it's a thin thread, but until somebody convinces me otherwise, I'm voting for deb. Sure, this could generally be true, and it's possible deb is a human but cab didn't eat her so she could say precisely the above, but their interactions all game have struck me as a little strange.
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Round 1
caberet voted for nicats (unknown)
4demo voted for caberet
Round 2
caberet voted for The_Spider (Seer)
Jayo voted for caberet (Jayo was eaten)
Round 3
caberet voted for 21kaldridge21 (wolf)
Round 4
caberet voted for HarryPutter (human)
Round 5
caberet voted for dfamina (human)
4demo voted for caberet
HarryPutter voted for caberet
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Last round, deb wrote:
the reason why i am trusting cab as human is because if one of us is on the opposite side the other is dead
and cab wrote:
Deb - Lol were friends. But she scares me if she's human and I'm a wolf. So I eat her out of desperation! It's a compliment!
Maybe it's a thin thread, but until somebody convinces me otherwise, I'm voting for deb. Sure, this could generally be true, and it's possible deb is a human but cab didn't eat her so she could say precisely the above, but their interactions all game have struck me as a little strange.
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
oh cabbie, you rascal, going to get me shot when you are already out of the game
i promise you i am human, i know it doesn't look like it, but i truly am
and it is true, we use to gun for each other when we were on opposite sides, that was why i was so sure she was human...i was snookered, well played cab
4demo
debc1 human
dfamina human
nicats
scrub88
i don't know at all
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after reading and going over voting i think demo is human
no point in voting a fellow wolf this late when other options were available
so that leaves scrubs and nic
need to read some more on those 2
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round 2 interesting
for a while cab and spider were tied with scrubs voting cab then he switched to chang
round 3
nic didn't vote kal(yes i know i didn't either)
after reading the last few rounds nic didn't vote in 1 or 2 of them
i am going to trust scrubs and vote nic
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i promise you i am human, i know it doesn't look like it, but i truly am
and it is true, we use to gun for each other when we were on opposite sides, that was why i was so sure she was human...i was snookered, well played cab
4demo
debc1 human
dfamina human
nicats
scrub88
i don't know at all
edit again
after reading and going over voting i think demo is human
no point in voting a fellow wolf this late when other options were available
so that leaves scrubs and nic
need to read some more on those 2
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round 2 interesting
for a while cab and spider were tied with scrubs voting cab then he switched to chang
round 3
nic didn't vote kal(yes i know i didn't either)
after reading the last few rounds nic didn't vote in 1 or 2 of them
i am going to trust scrubs and vote nic
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So Harry and Dfamina are both human. I am 95% certain I am voting 4demo again. Nicats is the only other player on my radar, and that's only because of her play early on. Nicats - You have been very difficult to read these last few rounds.
Deb, I know your vote is going to fall on me because you are a bulldog. Let me give you two things to think about. Who has the most to lose if night had timed out? Who stands to gain from leaving you (not Harry of dfamina) and me in the game? Last question: Why didn't Cab change her vote to join nicats and me, and thus save herself?
I think that one of the two following things happened. Most likely 1) 4demo started a rally to kill dfamina, followed by you and Cab. But when neither nicats, harry nor I would close the vote, the wolves changed strategy and split up. Slim possibility 2) Cab followed you, and then nicats deviated from her to keep up the diversion that they were not working together.
That's my two cents, but I suspect we have three individual voters voting each other, and then nicats. I will check once either before bed or tomorrow at breakfast. First day of school is tomorrow, and I am incredibly busy getting ready for my students.
We are double posting! I changed to chang after spider could not convince him to change to cab and gave up. If he had turned wolf I was definitely going back to Cab. When he turned human I let that thought go.
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Deb, I know your vote is going to fall on me because you are a bulldog. Let me give you two things to think about. Who has the most to lose if night had timed out? Who stands to gain from leaving you (not Harry of dfamina) and me in the game? Last question: Why didn't Cab change her vote to join nicats and me, and thus save herself?
I think that one of the two following things happened. Most likely 1) 4demo started a rally to kill dfamina, followed by you and Cab. But when neither nicats, harry nor I would close the vote, the wolves changed strategy and split up. Slim possibility 2) Cab followed you, and then nicats deviated from her to keep up the diversion that they were not working together.
That's my two cents, but I suspect we have three individual voters voting each other, and then nicats. I will check once either before bed or tomorrow at breakfast. First day of school is tomorrow, and I am incredibly busy getting ready for my students.
We are double posting! I changed to chang after spider could not convince him to change to cab and gave up. If he had turned wolf I was definitely going back to Cab. When he turned human I let that thought go.
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scrub, I realize I'm technically not cleared, but from your reasoning, I don't understand what incentive I might have had to follow the actions in your first scenario. Specifically, if I was a wolf, why would I change my vote from dfamina (who had three total votes by the time I switched) to a wolf (caberet) when there were several other players I could have voted for instead? There was little suspicion on cab at the time from anyone but myself, so it would have been highly strange to change my vote from dfamina (who was inactive) to cab if I were a wolf.
I agree that nicats is hard to read though. From past games, I can confirm she has a night job so she doesn't log on as often, so she could easily but unintentionally be flying under the radar...
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
I agree that nicats is hard to read though. From past games, I can confirm she has a night job so she doesn't log on as often, so she could easily but unintentionally be flying under the radar...
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
my sticking point is the demo didn't have to vote cab
then it would have been 3-3
i am just saying she didn't have to vote cab
Last question: Why didn't Cab change her vote to join nicats and me, and thus save herself?
let me look
i am assuming cab didn't log back in time
i have been totally off hold on
4demo voted for caberet
caberet voted for dfamina
debc1 voted for dfamina
HarryPutter voted for caberet
nicats voted for 4demo
scrub88 voted for 4demo
if demo was a wolf why didn't she vote df? no one was really clear when df was last on, so to me it would be plausible for her to vote him
bulldog- are you calling me stubborn??
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then it would have been 3-3
i am just saying she didn't have to vote cab
Last question: Why didn't Cab change her vote to join nicats and me, and thus save herself?
let me look
i am assuming cab didn't log back in time
i have been totally off hold on
4demo voted for caberet
caberet voted for dfamina
debc1 voted for dfamina
HarryPutter voted for caberet
nicats voted for 4demo
scrub88 voted for 4demo
if demo was a wolf why didn't she vote df? no one was really clear when df was last on, so to me it would be plausible for her to vote him
bulldog- are you calling me stubborn??
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It doesn't really matter anymore when exactly dfamina was last on. Right now, he hasn't been on in two days, so he's most definitely human. It would be quite suspicious if anybody were to vote for him now!
Last round HP indicated suspicion of me/scrub and of deb. Clearly scrub and I can't both be wolves, although it's certainly possible one of us is. I felt like he would have gunned fairly strongly for deb this round had he lived, though, so while this could be a setup by someone-besides-deb, I'm kind of tempted to go with the more straightforward possibility that he was getting too vocal about deb and needed to be silenced.
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Last round HP indicated suspicion of me/scrub and of deb. Clearly scrub and I can't both be wolves, although it's certainly possible one of us is. I felt like he would have gunned fairly strongly for deb this round had he lived, though, so while this could be a setup by someone-besides-deb, I'm kind of tempted to go with the more straightforward possibility that he was getting too vocal about deb and needed to be silenced.
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
thought
the wolves have a box
cab knew i didn't suspect her, so what should have been done was cab vote for the other wolf(if it was demo) that would have cemented in my mind that cab could in no possible way be a wolf and the win would have been hers cause i would have merrily walked in the forest with her at midnight
demo- i meant last round, not this one
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the wolves have a box
cab knew i didn't suspect her, so what should have been done was cab vote for the other wolf(if it was demo) that would have cemented in my mind that cab could in no possible way be a wolf and the win would have been hers cause i would have merrily walked in the forest with her at midnight
demo- i meant last round, not this one
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Well that unexpected but changes alot. I am still boting 4demo as that was who i thought before.
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I'm confused, nicats -- you mentioned that "that" changes a lot but immediately say you're voting for me because you previously suspected me. Can you specify what you meant by "that" (shooting a wolf, the fact cab was a wolf, HP being eaten, something else)?
I'm not going to stop you voting for me, but if you plan on making a costly move, it would be nice to hear the reasoning behind it. Clearly something important has happened but it's not important enough for you to reconsider in light of recent events or to better justify the vote? A little frustrating, even if I wasn't on the receiving end...
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
I'm not going to stop you voting for me, but if you plan on making a costly move, it would be nice to hear the reasoning behind it. Clearly something important has happened but it's not important enough for you to reconsider in light of recent events or to better justify the vote? A little frustrating, even if I wasn't on the receiving end...
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
I thought everyone was on to df as a wolf and i didnt suspect cab at all but that changed the whole df thing cab was pushing for df to be shot so she could live. I could have been the ending shot if i had chosen df cab would have still been here and i still would think she was human so i didnt have to choose been my teeter tootter of u and df this round.
Edit course i could be way off i havnt made it past 2 rounds in long time lol
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Edit course i could be way off i havnt made it past 2 rounds in long time lol
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I have been hunting (think of Calvin hunting Hobbs) Cab since Spider turned seer. I really felt he dvined cab and was fishing for 21K. I asked this question the next round. What's funny is that with that bias, everything she has done since has appeared wolfish. Harry was doing a good enough job of drawing her out, that I was using that to see if I could learn who she was conneted with. Ever since then I have been hunting for Cab's accomplice.
First I tried nicats, and she answered my challenge nicely. She did not ignore, and did not get defensive.
Then Deb - and she answered back too.
Then I tried 4demo, and until now she has really continued to be inconsistent.
4Demo - I don't know about your question. I wll think about it today.
But my last hunt consisted of voting for you last round. I figured that letting the computer decide between two wolves and an inactive was easy enough. I just know I really counted on Cab voting to save herself unless it would hurt another wolf (you).
I won't be back on until late PM. Sorry about that.
First I tried nicats, and she answered my challenge nicely. She did not ignore, and did not get defensive.
Then Deb - and she answered back too.
Then I tried 4demo, and until now she has really continued to be inconsistent.
4Demo - I don't know about your question. I wll think about it today.
But my last hunt consisted of voting for you last round. I figured that letting the computer decide between two wolves and an inactive was easy enough. I just know I really counted on Cab voting to save herself unless it would hurt another wolf (you).
I won't be back on until late PM. Sorry about that.
nicats wrote:
Either I'm misinterpreting something here, or it doesn't make sense. 1) If you (nicats) had been the ending shot by choosing to vote for dfamina last round, then yes, cab would be here and perhaps you'd think she was human. 2) But why would you have to choose between me (?) and dfamina this round if he was shot the previous round by you?! I can't really tell if there's some confusing wording or if this a hasty cover-up.
scrub, I'm not quite sure I follow what you said about answering your challenges?
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
I could have been the ending shot if i had chosen df cab would have still been here and i still would think she was human so i didnt have to choose been my teeter tootter of u and df this round.
Either I'm misinterpreting something here, or it doesn't make sense. 1) If you (nicats) had been the ending shot by choosing to vote for dfamina last round, then yes, cab would be here and perhaps you'd think she was human. 2) But why would you have to choose between me (?) and dfamina this round if he was shot the previous round by you?! I can't really tell if there's some confusing wording or if this a hasty cover-up.
scrub, I'm not quite sure I follow what you said about answering your challenges?
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Really? Ok you two are left but since cab was a wolf and pushing the df vote it looks like df is NOT a wolf so I am going with my second guess of you which is really my first guess now.
But my question is why is it so intriguing that you keep asking me the same stuff over and over? to protect yourself??
Just go with it. I probably have no idea what I am talking about my typing is not as methodical as my thoughts while playing the game.
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But my question is why is it so intriguing that you keep asking me the same stuff over and over? to protect yourself??
Just go with it. I probably have no idea what I am talking about my typing is not as methodical as my thoughts while playing the game.
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Not seeing enough to change my mind. Not long now.
Nicats, I mentioned several times above that dfamina cannot be a wolf because night did not time out and he hadn't logged on in two days at the top this round started... It's a moot point that cab suspected him or whatnot - sure, if we didn't have the time-out fact it would help lower suspicion on him, but I don't understand why you're only saying that it "looks like" he's not a wolf when he is most definitely not.
I don't really feel that I'm asking you "the same stuff over and over" but if you mean why I'm asking you many questions in general, it's because so far I've failed to get any good responses to any of them. I'm aware that you have a night job and probably aren't as active during the day, which is fine, but I honestly can't tell if you're too busy to read what's been happening or are deliberately ignoring it and just plowing ahead with your own thoughts. The above case with dfamina is a good example of this.
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
I don't really feel that I'm asking you "the same stuff over and over" but if you mean why I'm asking you many questions in general, it's because so far I've failed to get any good responses to any of them. I'm aware that you have a night job and probably aren't as active during the day, which is fine, but I honestly can't tell if you're too busy to read what's been happening or are deliberately ignoring it and just plowing ahead with your own thoughts. The above case with dfamina is a good example of this.
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Sorry for double-posting, but just realized I have a meeting at 60 pm Braingle Time, so I'll miss the last few minutes of the round.
I know full well this move will come back to bite me if I make it to next round, but assuming no major developments by around 5:30 pm BT, I'm switching my vote to nicats for two reasons:
1) Knowing that I'm human (and that I can't force anybody to believe me), it makes more sense from my POV to basically not commit suicide. A majority on me means 0% shooting a wolf, while a tied majority means roughly 16% chance.
2) I'm finding nicats' posts to be rather defensive and not particularly helpful, with all due respect. See my above post for more info.
Yes, I know this looks like a self-preservation action, and yes, it is - but don't forget that humans can be self-preserving too, not just wolves.
And in the relatively likely event that I'm shot and dfamina is eaten, I'd bet on deb or nicats as the last wolf next round.
Edit: going to go ahead and switch my vote now since I don't think the half hour will matter, plus there's a decent change deb decides to put a third vote on me in which case my vote doesn't matter anyway.
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
I know full well this move will come back to bite me if I make it to next round, but assuming no major developments by around 5:30 pm BT, I'm switching my vote to nicats for two reasons:
1) Knowing that I'm human (and that I can't force anybody to believe me), it makes more sense from my POV to basically not commit suicide. A majority on me means 0% shooting a wolf, while a tied majority means roughly 16% chance.
2) I'm finding nicats' posts to be rather defensive and not particularly helpful, with all due respect. See my above post for more info.
Yes, I know this looks like a self-preservation action, and yes, it is - but don't forget that humans can be self-preserving too, not just wolves.
And in the relatively likely event that I'm shot and dfamina is eaten, I'd bet on deb or nicats as the last wolf next round.
Edit: going to go ahead and switch my vote now since I don't think the half hour will matter, plus there's a decent change deb decides to put a third vote on me in which case my vote doesn't matter anyway.
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
i have been wrong this entire game
scrubs- i just don't get what you are saying(right now i guess i am pretty much a brick wall)
i could be wrong but i think demo is human so i am sticking with nic
i don't know why scrubs and i are so off
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scrubs- i just don't get what you are saying(right now i guess i am pretty much a brick wall)
i could be wrong but i think demo is human so i am sticking with nic
i don't know why scrubs and i are so off
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ok well the wolf will be winning if you vote for me. Sorry I am not as logical as the rest of you. I just know I am not a wolf and I really have no idea who is the wolf but I was just going with who I thought was.
Oh and I read stuff just not before I decided on my own opinion with out help from others first. then I take what they are saying and see if it goes along with my thought process.
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Oh and I read stuff just not before I decided on my own opinion with out help from others first. then I take what they are saying and see if it goes along with my thought process.
Edited to not double post
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Is anyone else semi-expecting dfamina to come it at literally the last minute and cast the tiebreaking vote?
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Let's play a game called "guess the role yourself, Sherlock".
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