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Game #3152: Animal House 2
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I didnt mean to imply the wolves had an obligation to go out of there way to eat inactives, but thanks for the courtesy. Evi is usually reliable and active, everyone's allowed a missed round now and then.
that being said....
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
that being said....
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
What a hugely productive round!
We finally nailed our 1st wolf! Phew! And the wolves ridded us of an inactive! It was a nice save since I had planned to vote for her. I hope that real life Evita is ok. I don't remenber Her going AWOL before.
I'll vote tomorrow morning when I'm at least slightly awake. G'night all.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
We finally nailed our 1st wolf! Phew! And the wolves ridded us of an inactive! It was a nice save since I had planned to vote for her. I hope that real life Evita is ok. I don't remenber Her going AWOL before.
I'll vote tomorrow morning when I'm at least slightly awake. G'night all.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Harry is not a wolf .. He was one among the few who had suspicions on dawn ..
I will hold my vote and thoughts for a while ..
I will hold my vote and thoughts for a while ..
That will teach me to be suspicious simply based on the number of votes. We definitely have a lot more breathing room now. And yeah, I agree with Harry being clear, I don't find him the type to set up a framing even if he didn't vote for dawn which was a bit odd. I thought the wolves might get him tonight. I also though have to add anki, scrub, and whovian to that list. I don't see the situation last round desperate enough to have a wolf make the decisive vote over dawn in what was ultimately a 3-2 vote.
That said, I also think we may have at least one low activity wolf left for the night still to be timing out despite Evita being eaten who from what I see is the only one who would have held this round back.
My vote for now goes to sonic102, though, both for being less active than normal and his defense of dawn last round..
That said, I also think we may have at least one low activity wolf left for the night still to be timing out despite Evita being eaten who from what I see is the only one who would have held this round back.
My vote for now goes to sonic102, though, both for being less active than normal and his defense of dawn last round..
I am voting bbgirl to start this round. I have already explained my suspicion. Nothing has changed from last round with respect to her.
I was planning on voting for dawn until I saw whovian's post which made me think it was more urgent I target her
I'm not sure voting her makes sense now since she shot down, but I'll have to think about it. I think the wolves would've eaten me if whov was a wolf
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I'm not sure voting her makes sense now since she shot down, but I'll have to think about it. I think the wolves would've eaten me if whov was a wolf
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scrub, I highly doubt that bbgrl is a wolf..
I will join Limerick with the sonic vote, although I am not highly suspicious of sonic ..
And where is everyone in this round ???
I will join Limerick with the sonic vote, although I am not highly suspicious of sonic ..
And where is everyone in this round ???
ankitankurddit wrote:
I am not opposed to voting for sonic, I just did not want to start an early round majority. Especially if we were wrong.
scrub, I highly doubt that bbgrl is a wolf..
I will join Limerick with the sonic vote, although I am not highly suspicious of sonic ..
And where is everyone in this round ???
I will join Limerick with the sonic vote, although I am not highly suspicious of sonic ..
And where is everyone in this round ???
I am not opposed to voting for sonic, I just did not want to start an early round majority. Especially if we were wrong.
I think Limerick is a wolf. There's the reluctance to vote dawn last round, the explanations this round... and what is with clearing Harry? NO ONE IS CLEAR. I treat Harry with suspicion and respect as a player, because he has been known to throw other wolves under the bus to save himself plenty of times.
I'm casting my vote, but it's not locked in stone yet.
It's a disease, not a punch line
I'm casting my vote, but it's not locked in stone yet.
It's a disease, not a punch line
No it is less probable that Limerick is the wolf .. He had talked about voting Evita, and Evita was eaten the very next round .. So if he/she was the wolf, why would he do that ??
scrub .. Okaay .. I agree with your logic .. ..
I'm thinking sonic. I shouldn't have joined this game the week of the benefit sorry guys.
Things are not always as they appear
Things are not always as they appear
whoviandeb wrote:
But Harry has not thrown anyone under a bus. His vote was on you. I think it is always okay for wolves to "suspect" other wolves. Only when a wolf votes a wolf in a key juncture is he throwing another one "under the bus". For instance, I am totally fine with Dawn voting for masterbrain. That was good gamesmanship. I don't think he should have led the charge, but that is just personal taste.
I have seen two wolves go at it in the second to last round because when one gets eaten the other looks really good. In fact, they won that game. You just have to know who you are playing with because I have also seen players get eaten early for payback when they felt they were not supported.
I think Limerick is a wolf. There's the reluctance to vote dawn last round, the explanations this round... and what is with clearing Harry? NO ONE IS CLEAR. I treat Harry with suspicion and respect as a player, because he has been known to throw other wolves under the bus to save himself plenty of times.
I'm casting my vote, but it's not locked in stone yet.
I'm casting my vote, but it's not locked in stone yet.
But Harry has not thrown anyone under a bus. His vote was on you. I think it is always okay for wolves to "suspect" other wolves. Only when a wolf votes a wolf in a key juncture is he throwing another one "under the bus". For instance, I am totally fine with Dawn voting for masterbrain. That was good gamesmanship. I don't think he should have led the charge, but that is just personal taste.
I have seen two wolves go at it in the second to last round because when one gets eaten the other looks really good. In fact, they won that game. You just have to know who you are playing with because I have also seen players get eaten early for payback when they felt they were not supported.
I also think Harry is not clear. If I was a wolf, I could lead a majority on another wolf, knowing that a) that vote would not change anything and b) I would be clear under some people's eyes.
But bussing is sometimes good! Now, because Harry bussed dawn, people like scrub have no problem clearing him.
The reason I voted Whovian is because I didn't want to start an early majority. However, by the time I logged in again it was Night.
My belief is that Harry is another wolf.
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But bussing is sometimes good! Now, because Harry bussed dawn, people like scrub have no problem clearing him.
The reason I voted Whovian is because I didn't want to start an early majority. However, by the time I logged in again it was Night.
My belief is that Harry is another wolf.
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sonic102 wrote:
No. harry did not vote for Dawn. But Dawn did vote for masterbrain. And I never cleared Harry. Ankitan said
I think you need to slow down a little there sonic!
I also think Harry is not clear. If I was a wolf, I could lead a majority on another wolf, knowing that a) that vote would not change anything and b) I would be clear under some people's eyes.
But bussing is sometimes good! Now, because Harry bussed dawn, people like scrub have no problem clearing him.
The reason I voted Whovian is because I didn't want to start an early majority. However, by the time I logged in again it was Night.
My belief is that Harry is another wolf.
But bussing is sometimes good! Now, because Harry bussed dawn, people like scrub have no problem clearing him.
The reason I voted Whovian is because I didn't want to start an early majority. However, by the time I logged in again it was Night.
My belief is that Harry is another wolf.
No. harry did not vote for Dawn. But Dawn did vote for masterbrain. And I never cleared Harry. Ankitan said
Harry is not a wolf .. He was one among the few who had suspicions on dawn ..
I think you need to slow down a little there sonic!
scrub88 wrote:
But Harry has not thrown anyone under a bus. His vote was on you. I think it is always okay for wolves to "suspect" other wolves. Only when a wolf votes a wolf in a key juncture is he throwing another one "under the bus".
I didn't say he was doing it in this game. And of course it's okay - it's game strategy. My ONLY point was that people who are clearing other players are high up on my list of suspects.
ankit wrote:
No it is less probable that Limerick is the wolf .. He had talked about voting Evita, and Evita was eaten the very next round .. So if he/she was the wolf, why would he do that ??
A wolf would do that because there are players like you who think a wolf wouldn't do that.
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It's a disease, not a punch line
But Harry has not thrown anyone under a bus. His vote was on you. I think it is always okay for wolves to "suspect" other wolves. Only when a wolf votes a wolf in a key juncture is he throwing another one "under the bus".
I didn't say he was doing it in this game. And of course it's okay - it's game strategy. My ONLY point was that people who are clearing other players are high up on my list of suspects.
ankit wrote:
No it is less probable that Limerick is the wolf .. He had talked about voting Evita, and Evita was eaten the very next round .. So if he/she was the wolf, why would he do that ??
A wolf would do that because there are players like you who think a wolf wouldn't do that.
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It's a disease, not a punch line
scrub88 wrote:
But Harry has not thrown anyone under a bus. His vote was on you. I think it is always okay for wolves to "suspect" other wolves. Only when a wolf votes a wolf in a key juncture is he throwing another one "under the bus". For instance, I am totally fine with Dawn voting for masterbrain. That was good gamesmanship. I don't think he should have led the charge, but that is just personal taste.
This was what I was talking about. I think that Harry has thrown Dawn under a bus - even though he hadn't directly voted for dawn, he did bring upon a quite a few votes for him indirectly.
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But Harry has not thrown anyone under a bus. His vote was on you. I think it is always okay for wolves to "suspect" other wolves. Only when a wolf votes a wolf in a key juncture is he throwing another one "under the bus". For instance, I am totally fine with Dawn voting for masterbrain. That was good gamesmanship. I don't think he should have led the charge, but that is just personal taste.
This was what I was talking about. I think that Harry has thrown Dawn under a bus - even though he hadn't directly voted for dawn, he did bring upon a quite a few votes for him indirectly.
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I'm ok with either a sonic or Putter vote. I thought Sonic seemed clearish in an early round, and remained less inclined to suspect Sonic. But HP has been coming off as different this game. And Sonic doesn't seem quite human either. I would join the Sonic vote, since we haven't a seer. But I'm a bit concerned about a lack of a competing mini-maj. Oh yes. There are only 2 wolves remaining. So sweet! If we are on a wolf, the partner can hardly save them. So it be hooves the wolf to join the vote to gain credibility. I will vote for, um. I'll just go with sonic. For now at least.
Edit: ankitankurddit wrote:
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Edit: ankitankurddit wrote:
Harry is not a wolf .. He was one among the few who had suspicions on dawn .. ..
This is a very interesting posting. Would a wolf be so obvious about supporting a fellow bad guy? Probably not. What would promp a human to tentatively clear another players. We humans are blind. Is ankitankurddit a wolf supporting a human to look more human? That strategy works better when said human is in danger. Or am I totally off?
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
In previous rounds, dawnrising voted for masterbrain, sonic, and evita before being caught. Two of those are known humans, so why are the votes piling on sonic this round?
We've got four votes down for sonic (and we only need five). If sonic is a wolf, we need to look closely at those who did not vote at all (Harry? Jayo? Got some time left, fellas) and those who voted elsewhere (yes, me included). But if sonic turns out to be human, I'd bet one or both of the wolves are voting for him.
Last round ankit was the first to vote for dawnrising - that would be a bold move if he was a wolf, so for now I'm thinking he's human. I joined the vote for dawn, mostly because I was trying to save myself. Scrubb was the third and deciding vote - as it was a tie-breaker situation, I'm thinking he's human as well.
My top suspects at this time: caberet, bbgrl, Limerick
My other suspects: Harry, Jayo
I don't know about sonic - it could go either way.
Since I trust scrubb at this point, I'll join his vote for bbgrl.
It's a disease, not a punch line
We've got four votes down for sonic (and we only need five). If sonic is a wolf, we need to look closely at those who did not vote at all (Harry? Jayo? Got some time left, fellas) and those who voted elsewhere (yes, me included). But if sonic turns out to be human, I'd bet one or both of the wolves are voting for him.
Last round ankit was the first to vote for dawnrising - that would be a bold move if he was a wolf, so for now I'm thinking he's human. I joined the vote for dawn, mostly because I was trying to save myself. Scrubb was the third and deciding vote - as it was a tie-breaker situation, I'm thinking he's human as well.
My top suspects at this time: caberet, bbgrl, Limerick
My other suspects: Harry, Jayo
I don't know about sonic - it could go either way.
Since I trust scrubb at this point, I'll join his vote for bbgrl.
It's a disease, not a punch line
Some of you guys dont get that I explicitly called dawn out for using wf tactics when there was no possible benefit for me as a wolf to do so so suspecting me now is nothing short of madness.
That being said, I think the way this majority on sonic has piled on is pretty suspicious.
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That being said, I think the way this majority on sonic has piled on is pretty suspicious.
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So who do you think we should vote for, harry? You and whoviandeb and I can create an option.
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So I guess with three hours remaining, I am going to die this day. Oh well.
I now strongly believe ankit and Harry are the wolves. I suggest lynching one of them tomorrow.
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I now strongly believe ankit and Harry are the wolves. I suggest lynching one of them tomorrow.
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Hmm, sonic being voted by dawn earlier is a very good point. Something in my gut is making me suspicious of cab, especially when there is no traction on a vote for her at this stage. Though, also bothered by how anki just jumped on a vote against sonic without suspicion?
Vote Change: caberet
Vote Change: caberet
These are my explanations for my suspicions:
Harry: I see his suspicion on dawnrising as a bus. And there are possible advantages to bussing - many people think you are clear, for example.
Ankit: This isn't really a suspicion per se, but if Harry is a wolf then ankit is definitely a wolf for defending him a lot of times and also jumping on the majority on me with liitle explanation. Yes, people do jump on majorities, but usually they give some explanation.
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Harry: I see his suspicion on dawnrising as a bus. And there are possible advantages to bussing - many people think you are clear, for example.
Ankit: This isn't really a suspicion per se, but if Harry is a wolf then ankit is definitely a wolf for defending him a lot of times and also jumping on the majority on me with liitle explanation. Yes, people do jump on majorities, but usually they give some explanation.
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Sonic, youre clearly missing something.
Bussing is done for strategic purposes, and there was no strategic purpose to throw dawn under like that for no reason. That's just unnecessary and reckless. Someone with my level of experience would never do something so risky when there's no logic behind it (I.e. I was under no threat and the wolves had a clear easy path to victory with a dead seer at that point in the game if they just laid low).
Honestly I was considering trying to save you since I think you might be human, but I'm wondering if you would be a liability to keep in now. one of the few human advantages now is that I'm pretty close to being clear. We don't have much else information, and by targeting me we would be throwing away one of the few key pieces of valuable info.
I think ankit makes some valid points which seem very human to me, so I wouldn't suspect him either. Limerick is also making some good points. I'm going to see if I can spot some.potential pair combos.
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Bussing is done for strategic purposes, and there was no strategic purpose to throw dawn under like that for no reason. That's just unnecessary and reckless. Someone with my level of experience would never do something so risky when there's no logic behind it (I.e. I was under no threat and the wolves had a clear easy path to victory with a dead seer at that point in the game if they just laid low).
Honestly I was considering trying to save you since I think you might be human, but I'm wondering if you would be a liability to keep in now. one of the few human advantages now is that I'm pretty close to being clear. We don't have much else information, and by targeting me we would be throwing away one of the few key pieces of valuable info.
I think ankit makes some valid points which seem very human to me, so I wouldn't suspect him either. Limerick is also making some good points. I'm going to see if I can spot some.potential pair combos.
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I am gonna agree with Harry on this one.. If he is wolf, and he had a vote on dawn, knowing that dawn had been really successful in the last game of ours .. I think dawn was the last wolf standing right ??
And if you suspect me and Harry as a pair of wolves ? .. Then why would we throw dawn under the bus, provided that the game was going fine ? ..
And if you suspect me and Harry as a pair of wolves ? .. Then why would we throw dawn under the bus, provided that the game was going fine ? ..
After this round, lets see who gets eaten during the night .. that will also give us some thoughts about who are the wolves ??
Here are my late night thoughts:
Top tier suspects - Anki or HP, Limerick, sonic
That list got longer than I had intended.
I'm changing to Limerick for the late in the round vote change. Ugh. I'm dong the same thing come to think of it. Any hoo, there are competing mans on sonic and bbgrl.
Edit - I'm changing to Outter because his play has been off all game. Fingers crossed.
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Top tier suspects - Anki or HP, Limerick, sonic
That list got longer than I had intended.
I'm changing to Limerick for the late in the round vote change. Ugh. I'm dong the same thing come to think of it. Any hoo, there are competing mans on sonic and bbgrl.
Edit - I'm changing to Outter because his play has been off all game. Fingers crossed.
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
With the expulsion of one of the Omega moles from the frathouse, Dean Wermer became quite irate. After consolting with his remaining agent, he found he had some dirt on bbgirl that just couldnt be ignored.
Who dumped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet?
Who delivered the medical cadavers to the alumni dinner?
....
You're talking about bbgirl, his agent responded.
Of course I'm talking about bbgirl you twerp.....The time has come for someone to put his foot down.....and that foot is me.
Bb was expelled from the college and kicked off campus.....7 years of college down the drain
YOU SHOT A DELTA
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Who dumped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet?
Who delivered the medical cadavers to the alumni dinner?
....
You're talking about bbgirl, his agent responded.
Of course I'm talking about bbgirl you twerp.....The time has come for someone to put his foot down.....and that foot is me.
Bb was expelled from the college and kicked off campus.....7 years of college down the drain
YOU SHOT A DELTA
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
WTF is going on with the night? It's enough already with this
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
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