The Werewolf Game
Game #3155: If
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RFM
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I'm not doing anything until Deb informs us if our Seer is still with us.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
froggygg wrote:
Again, I'm surprised to be alive, though I have to say it's the first time I've seen this ploy in action. I figured out during the "day" yesterday that I couldn't tell who I would be divining or the remaining wolf would simply eat that person (unless I guessed right). FWIW, Slam is Human.
So I'm seer, Bobbi is Human, and Slam is human. I will be divining either Longhorn or HABS tonight, but won't say which one. If either are eaten, then the other is the Wolf; if I'm eaten, then you will have confirmation that I'm seer when Deb reports in the morning. (I'm actually expecting the Wolf to claim seer this round to try and sow further confusion.)
In any event, I will follow whatever lead Bobbi and Slam wish to pursue. It all comes down to whether they believe I am as I've advertised. NOTE: I must vote to divine, so please don't end the round before I've done so. (That request, obviously, goes to Bobbi and Slam; the wolf would likely be pushing for a quick kill.)
Have to confess that this is a novel endgame for me. Kudos to HABS or Longhorn for the interesting approach; I can see that the humans have no hard evidence to believe me. The fact that I know the seer is still in the game though is something that only I would know; so when Deb confirms that, hopefully it will count for something.
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Before I put the last nail in Ankit's coffin, who did you divine last night, Talon? Even if you divined a human it will help us to not shoot another human in the next round. Bobbi mentioned that you said you were going to divine Snowy next but you must not have due to your comment above:
Please everyone give Talon a chance to post since only one more vote will end this round. We need to know who he divined because it will help solidify that Talon is really our Seer...
Night 4 I divined snow. The fact that she's human was unhelpful since she was eaten. My comment was self-deprecating humor: "i could be wrong of course; it has happened before" because I had been wrong just the previous round when I suspected snow of being a wolf. Since she was eaten, she was obviously human (or seer if you don't believe I am; but then Deb would have mentioned it).Well. I think that probably means Snow was human. I could be wrong of course; it has happened before....
Holding my vote for a little while so that Talon has time to post his last divination. Please everyone give Talon a chance to post since only one more vote will end this round. We need to know who he divined because it will help solidify that Talon is really our Seer...
Again, I'm surprised to be alive, though I have to say it's the first time I've seen this ploy in action. I figured out during the "day" yesterday that I couldn't tell who I would be divining or the remaining wolf would simply eat that person (unless I guessed right). FWIW, Slam is Human.
So I'm seer, Bobbi is Human, and Slam is human. I will be divining either Longhorn or HABS tonight, but won't say which one. If either are eaten, then the other is the Wolf; if I'm eaten, then you will have confirmation that I'm seer when Deb reports in the morning. (I'm actually expecting the Wolf to claim seer this round to try and sow further confusion.)
In any event, I will follow whatever lead Bobbi and Slam wish to pursue. It all comes down to whether they believe I am as I've advertised. NOTE: I must vote to divine, so please don't end the round before I've done so. (That request, obviously, goes to Bobbi and Slam; the wolf would likely be pushing for a quick kill.)
Have to confess that this is a novel endgame for me. Kudos to HABS or Longhorn for the interesting approach; I can see that the humans have no hard evidence to believe me. The fact that I know the seer is still in the game though is something that only I would know; so when Deb confirms that, hopefully it will count for something.
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Last round was a bit quick...less than 3 hours.
Deb needs to show.
I am not a wolf so there is that and I doubt habs would leave a seer in the game.
The wolves know the other wolves...but if a human claimed seer then they would in no way survive the night, espically with the "seer" claiming to have divided 2 wolves and 1 confirmed ID by the mod. Nice try talen but eating snow after you tried to pin her was not a smart move. You bought yourself a few rounds but the end is near. That was actually a pretty shady bus move
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Deb needs to show.
I am not a wolf so there is that and I doubt habs would leave a seer in the game.
The wolves know the other wolves...but if a human claimed seer then they would in no way survive the night, espically with the "seer" claiming to have divided 2 wolves and 1 confirmed ID by the mod. Nice try talen but eating snow after you tried to pin her was not a smart move. You bought yourself a few rounds but the end is near. That was actually a pretty shady bus move
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Woah, I didn't even get a chance to come on last round.
I really do believe ankit is telling the truth but I want to wait to see what debc says.
I really do believe ankit is telling the truth but I want to wait to see what debc says.
Longhorn_fan wrote:
NOT A CHANCE!
Everyone knows the importance I place on winning. I wouldn't risk it. We have all seen wolves bus other wolves, it is not like it is a new tactic.
I, like Slamm, tend to think Ankit may be being truthful. As, I said, wolves bus other wolves.. However, I don't think I have ever seen a double bus. Not sure what Talan's game plan would be, but if I were the second wolf bussed, I would be upset too. I can understand how some players may out the third wolf.
I will likely be joining the talon vote.
We still have one more round if we are wrong (which I really don't think we are).
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
...I doubt habs would leave a seer in the game...
NOT A CHANCE!
Everyone knows the importance I place on winning. I wouldn't risk it. We have all seen wolves bus other wolves, it is not like it is a new tactic.
I, like Slamm, tend to think Ankit may be being truthful. As, I said, wolves bus other wolves.. However, I don't think I have ever seen a double bus. Not sure what Talan's game plan would be, but if I were the second wolf bussed, I would be upset too. I can understand how some players may out the third wolf.
I will likely be joining the talon vote.
We still have one more round if we are wrong (which I really don't think we are).
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
HABS2933 wrote:
You shoot me
Wolf eats either Slam or Bobbi (leaving whichever is least capable in her opinion)
Deb reveals that you've shot your seer
Next round opens with Longhorn pointing at HABS and HABS pointing at Longhorn, with whoever's left having the deciding vote.
Odds are maybe fifty-fifty?
Again, the only thing I know for sure that the humans don't is that the Seer is still in the game. Save your breath: the wolf of course is morally certain of that too under the circumstances; but with at least two human deaths since Deb last reported, *I* wouldn't know the seer's status if *I* were the wolf.
I'm off to work and may not be on again before the end of the round. Slam and Bobbi need to wait for Deb's report, and then make their decision. I've already said I'll follow their lead since I know they're human.
Have fun, kiddies!
We still have one more round if we are wrong (which I really don't think we are).
You do have one more round, yes. Here's how that will play out. You shoot me
Wolf eats either Slam or Bobbi (leaving whichever is least capable in her opinion)
Deb reveals that you've shot your seer
Next round opens with Longhorn pointing at HABS and HABS pointing at Longhorn, with whoever's left having the deciding vote.
Odds are maybe fifty-fifty?
Again, the only thing I know for sure that the humans don't is that the Seer is still in the game. Save your breath: the wolf of course is morally certain of that too under the circumstances; but with at least two human deaths since Deb last reported, *I* wouldn't know the seer's status if *I* were the wolf.
I'm off to work and may not be on again before the end of the round. Slam and Bobbi need to wait for Deb's report, and then make their decision. I've already said I'll follow their lead since I know they're human.
Have fun, kiddies!
I'm not doing nothing until Deb tells us if we still have our Seer.
I will tell you now I am not the Seer. So, of the 5 of us left, only one has claimed to be the Seer. With only one wolf left, if someone other than talanpoe is Seer, there is no way they would still remain silent or even deny the fact as I have and as LH did last round. As for as Ankit's statement, if he were the 3rd wolf, his antics would make him a Piranha in Braingle history forevermore. As a wolf trying to save the game for the wolves, and if successful, he would be honored as the master of the game. You tell me which you would do if you were in his shoes.
Personally, based on what I've observed, I think Habs is our 3rd wolf. Most likely that is where my vote is going, but again I am waiting for Deb to report.
Deb, you have about 12 hours to log on and tell us if we still have our Seer and of course Ankit's identity. I realize your daughter has been in the hospital, but surely, surely in 12 more hours you can find a minute to log on and type "your Seer is alive (or dead)" and Ankit's identity, wolf or human. Please don't think you shouldn't reveal that information at this point, since you have revealed every other round and in all of your previous games. Don't change the rules in mid-stream. Thanks.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I will tell you now I am not the Seer. So, of the 5 of us left, only one has claimed to be the Seer. With only one wolf left, if someone other than talanpoe is Seer, there is no way they would still remain silent or even deny the fact as I have and as LH did last round. As for as Ankit's statement, if he were the 3rd wolf, his antics would make him a Piranha in Braingle history forevermore. As a wolf trying to save the game for the wolves, and if successful, he would be honored as the master of the game. You tell me which you would do if you were in his shoes.
Personally, based on what I've observed, I think Habs is our 3rd wolf. Most likely that is where my vote is going, but again I am waiting for Deb to report.
Deb, you have about 12 hours to log on and tell us if we still have our Seer and of course Ankit's identity. I realize your daughter has been in the hospital, but surely, surely in 12 more hours you can find a minute to log on and type "your Seer is alive (or dead)" and Ankit's identity, wolf or human. Please don't think you shouldn't reveal that information at this point, since you have revealed every other round and in all of your previous games. Don't change the rules in mid-stream. Thanks.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
A few things stick out in mybmind here:
As you said you are "not sure" which of LH or myself is the wolf, shouldn't we be allowed to speak? Maybe one of us will trip up. As a humab, you should want that.
Pretty dangerous to walk away without placing a vote at this late stage..
Didn't he just say he wouldn't be back before the end of the round? How can he follow anyone's lead if he is not here?
Just remember, you two, the fact you are human would also be known to the wolf.. we've seen this before too, a wolf claiming seer will offer up a human or two to lend credit to the claim in the eyes of those named.
I just can't buy into the idea any wolf would leave a "comfirmed" seer in the game...
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
...save your breath...
As you said you are "not sure" which of LH or myself is the wolf, shouldn't we be allowed to speak? Maybe one of us will trip up. As a humab, you should want that.
...I'm off to work and may not be on again before the end of the round...
Pretty dangerous to walk away without placing a vote at this late stage..
...I've already said I'll follow their lead..."
Didn't he just say he wouldn't be back before the end of the round? How can he follow anyone's lead if he is not here?
Slam and Bobbi ... since I know they're human.
Just remember, you two, the fact you are human would also be known to the wolf.. we've seen this before too, a wolf claiming seer will offer up a human or two to lend credit to the claim in the eyes of those named.
I just can't buy into the idea any wolf would leave a "comfirmed" seer in the game...
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
He may have claimed me human but I still am almost 100% sure he is a wolf.
slammngirl92 wrote:
Are YOU the Seer?
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
He may have claimed me human but I still am almost 100% sure he is a wolf.
Are YOU the Seer?
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Talen has made too many mistakes.
Notice he claims in an above post that either Me or Habs is last wolf....
Then he claims if we shoot him this round slam or Bobbi Will be eaten...then odds are maybe 50/50 (what?)
Come on...he is the wolf.
Ankit would not say that....
Talen was in jeopardy of being shot so he faked seer. Andkit outed him after being bussed.
Deb's absence is allowing his ploy to last.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Notice he claims in an above post that either Me or Habs is last wolf....
Then he claims if we shoot him this round slam or Bobbi Will be eaten...then odds are maybe 50/50 (what?)
Come on...he is the wolf.
Ankit would not say that....
Talen was in jeopardy of being shot so he faked seer. Andkit outed him after being bussed.
Deb's absence is allowing his ploy to last.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
So, then you think either Snowy or Froggy was our Seer? I really think Snowy would have told us if she was. Froggy held on to that information in the past when she was Seer, but she is the one who asked that the last vote not be logged until talenpoe had a chance to respond. Ankit is the one who ended the round, as any good wolf would do under the circumstances. So, is he a good wolf or a bad wolf? That is what we need to find out, and until then I wait.
What do you mean Ankit wouldn't say that. What wouldn't he say? Would he really want to be the wolf who ruined the wolves chances for a win, or would he act as most wolves do and try to take a human with him?
Deb, where are you?
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
What do you mean Ankit wouldn't say that. What wouldn't he say? Would he really want to be the wolf who ruined the wolves chances for a win, or would he act as most wolves do and try to take a human with him?
Deb, where are you?
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
No, I'm not the seer.
I do believe the last wolf is talan though. Don't know if we should wait for debc or not.
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I do believe the last wolf is talan though. Don't know if we should wait for debc or not.
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I think Andkit got upset over the bussing...there was no need. Jayo and Andkit were semi suspicious but not enough to bus. So that is why I think Andkit was telling truth.
I, as you have seen many ploys.
I feel this is one.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I, as you have seen many ploys.
I feel this is one.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Why not wait?
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
There are only 9 hrs left, and it is very unusual for her be gone so long. I hope everything is okay.
I have seen in the past, a wolf call wolfout another wolf. It could work.
An it says Talan is a wolf, we all him and hah about whether he (if a wolf) would do that or not.
The general concensus would of be 'NO', which may be a perfect reason to do it.
He may think no one would believe him, and keep talan in the game...
OR, he could be full of it...
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I have seen in the past, a wolf call wolfout another wolf. It could work.
An it says Talan is a wolf, we all him and hah about whether he (if a wolf) would do that or not.
The general concensus would of be 'NO', which may be a perfect reason to do it.
He may think no one would believe him, and keep talan in the game...
OR, he could be full of it...
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
HABS2933 wrote:
Would you care to clarify what you said? I guess you must be on your phone.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
There are only 9 hrs left, and it is very unusual for her be gone so long. I hope everything is okay.
I have seen in the past, a wolf call wolfout another wolf. It could work.
An it says Talan is a wolf, we all him and hah about whether he (if a wolf) would do that or not.
The general concensus would of be 'NO', which may be a perfect reason to do it.
He may think no one would believe him, and keep talan in the game...
OR, he could be full of it...
I have seen in the past, a wolf call wolfout another wolf. It could work.
An it says Talan is a wolf, we all him and hah about whether he (if a wolf) would do that or not.
The general concensus would of be 'NO', which may be a perfect reason to do it.
He may think no one would believe him, and keep talan in the game...
OR, he could be full of it...
Would you care to clarify what you said? I guess you must be on your phone.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Yeah, I am on my phone. Really should hook my computer up again.
Basically, what I was trying to address was the question regarding if Ankit would really call out the third wolf (if he is actually was a wplf (which while we don't have confirmed, confirmed seems likely. Why claim to be one if he isn't? I think we can safely assume he was wolf 2.
That said, would the 2nd wolf really call out the third (and final) wolf?
Your initial reaction would be "No, of course not". So we don't want to believe it.
What if Ankit knew we would question his "dying declaration" and dismiss it? He could safely out the third wolf playing the odds that we wouldn't bite.
OR he really is just upset at being bussed for no strategic reason and decided to throw the game.
I don't know ... all I know is I am a plain, ordinary, non-seer human.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Basically, what I was trying to address was the question regarding if Ankit would really call out the third wolf (if he is actually was a wplf (which while we don't have confirmed, confirmed seems likely. Why claim to be one if he isn't? I think we can safely assume he was wolf 2.
That said, would the 2nd wolf really call out the third (and final) wolf?
Your initial reaction would be "No, of course not". So we don't want to believe it.
What if Ankit knew we would question his "dying declaration" and dismiss it? He could safely out the third wolf playing the odds that we wouldn't bite.
OR he really is just upset at being bussed for no strategic reason and decided to throw the game.
I don't know ... all I know is I am a plain, ordinary, non-seer human.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Ok, so now we have all said we are not the Seer, with the exception of talanpoe. I believe I know Snowy well enough to be pretty sure if she were the Seer she would have come out and stated that when Poe declared that he was. The only other one that could be Seer is Froggy, since Deb had revealed identities up to the Jayo and Ankit shootings and Snowy and Froggy eatings. If one of the other remaining players is the Seer, I think common sense would tell us they would have said so by now.
So, I again ask, why not wait for Deb? If you have some place to go or be, then I guess you have no option, but I for one am going to wait.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
So, I again ask, why not wait for Deb? If you have some place to go or be, then I guess you have no option, but I for one am going to wait.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I did not wait as I see no need.
There are not enough players left.
If talen is telling truth then habs is last wolf because Bobbi and slam are cleared.
I know I am not a wolf so the vote makes sense to me. I see it as a definate human win.
Besides, like I said.... NO wolf would leave the seer in the game.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
There are not enough players left.
If talen is telling truth then habs is last wolf because Bobbi and slam are cleared.
I know I am not a wolf so the vote makes sense to me. I see it as a definate human win.
Besides, like I said.... NO wolf would leave the seer in the game.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Well, no posts in 5 hrs. Noting more to say really. Still no word from Deb. .. going to log my vote soon. Maybe once I start the next round of WTB.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Made it back after all. Really wasn't expecting the sun to still be up here.
HABS2933 wrote:
Only about 1:15 left in the daylight, and so far as I can tell all the arguments have been made. I guess go ahead and do whatever you're going to do.
EDIT: Given that either HABS or Longhorn is lying their a$$ off, if I had to guess which was the wolf I'd have to go with LH at this point. A guess; no divinity behind it. Unless Bobbi votes for HABS in the next hour, I'll be voting for LH. (Sorry, Slam; I just can't follow your plan to shoot the seer...)
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HABS2933 wrote:
There are only 9 hrs left, and it is very unusual for her be gone so long. I hope everything is okay.
Agree there.Only about 1:15 left in the daylight, and so far as I can tell all the arguments have been made. I guess go ahead and do whatever you're going to do.
EDIT: Given that either HABS or Longhorn is lying their a$$ off, if I had to guess which was the wolf I'd have to go with LH at this point. A guess; no divinity behind it. Unless Bobbi votes for HABS in the next hour, I'll be voting for LH. (Sorry, Slam; I just can't follow your plan to shoot the seer...)
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I think at this point it really doesn't make much difference how I vote if Slamni votes with Habs & LH. I'm concerned about Deb now, I do so hope everything is ok, it's just not like her to abandon a game she is modding.
Anyhow, since it's a toss up (in my opinion) and LH did log a vote early on which could be considered wolfie , I could go with either even though my instincts say Habs. I've been wrong more than I've been right in wolf hunting, so I'll vote LH and keep my fingers crossed that Froggy wasn't the Seer after all.
Ye gads, I can't stand the suspense!
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Anyhow, since it's a toss up (in my opinion) and LH did log a vote early on which could be considered wolfie , I could go with either even though my instincts say Habs. I've been wrong more than I've been right in wolf hunting, so I'll vote LH and keep my fingers crossed that Froggy wasn't the Seer after all.
Ye gads, I can't stand the suspense!
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
well, I'm stll not sure I 100% believe Talan. Some of his moves have seen off. Even though he claimed he would likely not be back, he did not vote earlier. Why not? If he is so sure he is right aboutbeither LH or I being the last wolf, why not start the ball rolling? Worst case he picks wrong and the true wolf gets shot next round. It is almost certainly a human win.
Voting Talan and hoping Froggy was seer.
EDIT: Also concerned about Deb. BOBBI- do you have her email? Or are you friends on FB? Is there a way you can check in with her?
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Voting Talan and hoping Froggy was seer.
EDIT: Also concerned about Deb. BOBBI- do you have her email? Or are you friends on FB? Is there a way you can check in with her?
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
HABS2933 wrote:
Even though he claimed he would likely not be back, he did not vote earlier. Why not?
One last answer. I didn't vote because there was reasonable doubt about my status; and had I voted before Deb got here (or before Bobby/Slam), that would have been the action of a wolf. Guess we'll see what happens.
Habs, I am friends with her on FB, but she really doesn't get on very often. I did send her a PM on Braingle which if she has her account set up like mine she would get a message that she had a PM on her personal home email. She hasn't opened the PM yet, so she's still unavailable.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I am so sorry guys, I was at the hospital, daughter had surgery this morning
I didn't think I would be gone this long
ok checking on the dead and will give you an update
again my apologies
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I didn't think I would be gone this long
ok checking on the dead and will give you an update
again my apologies
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snow- human
ank- wolf
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froggy- human
tal----how exciting to know.... he was your seer
good luck
and again my apologies
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tal----how exciting to know.... he was your seer
good luck
and again my apologies
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I am soooo sorry I let ya'll down
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