The Werewolf Game
Game #3198: Decoy Seer
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This game finished in 6 rounds.
Thanks Fathead.
One wolf down and... the decoy seer has met his demise.
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Shogi - or Japanese chess - is better than regular chess. You should visit 81Dojo.com to play shogi.
One wolf down and... the decoy seer has met his demise.
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Shogi - or Japanese chess - is better than regular chess. You should visit 81Dojo.com to play shogi.
Anyone got any ideas?
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Shogi - or Japanese chess - is better than regular chess. You should visit 81Dojo.com to play shogi.
All I have are ideas....for example, the fact spid wasn't eaten when there are TWO seers outstanding and he was making some pretty bold claims means (if he's human) that deb is likely human too. A wolf would eat spid if he was right about deb...I'd think, at least. Unless spid is a wolf.... Regardless, deb just bought herself some reasonable doubt since she killed a wolf!
I hereby grant you a certification of being likely human by the HP foundation, deb
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I hereby grant you a certification of being likely human by the HP foundation, deb
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Woo hoo
I am telling you cat is on a streak
Will look at the anti cat votrs
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I am telling you cat is on a streak
Will look at the anti cat votrs
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well thanks harry
I am going to start out with a dan vote
usually he would be all over a cat vote
and his insistence of trying to pin some sort of suspicion on me
sorry babe
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I am going to start out with a dan vote
usually he would be all over a cat vote
and his insistence of trying to pin some sort of suspicion on me
sorry babe
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I've already explained why I suspect Spider, and Deb's insisting on keeping her vote on Cat who we now know was a wolf makes me pretty sure she is human. Gotta go with my gut on this one and also vote Spider.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Those who voted for Cat, a now known wolf, were deb, kzmonopoly, DrHoo, and myself (I was the first to place a random SPV on Cat). That makes me feel that Hoo and deb are Human and, obviously, kzmonopolly was Human since he was eaten. I'm really surprised that Cat was a wolf yet again since he has been in he last few games I've played with him.
I'm not sure who to vote for, so I'm going to wait for morning and see what everyone else has to say.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I'm not sure who to vote for, so I'm going to wait for morning and see what everyone else has to say.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Well some good news there. Glad we got one. I'm thinking the wolves stayed well out of the vote for cat - maybe even away from some of the other majorities. Going for mnky.
While they're not suspicious at this point, I bet you at least one of the players who voted for Cat was a wolf. That seems to be the smartest move for a wolf, though granted not a popular action like keeping an inactive in play. But just the fact that a lot of y'all are already assuming those players less likely makes me that more suspicious of them.
Actually, I'm not sure why the wolves chose to eat KZ, but it makes me less suspicious of Cab now because of how a wolf would less inclined to do that.
Of course, on the other hand, possibly more likely, are those who voted for majorities to try and save Cat. The Hoo majority standing out the most because of its number and because Cat was in it himself. That being said, I can understand why you guys are voting for Spider but I don't think I'll vote for him. Since Bobbi fits the same criteria of suspicion for me as Spider and is helping to vote for him, I'll vote for Bobbi.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Actually, I'm not sure why the wolves chose to eat KZ, but it makes me less suspicious of Cab now because of how a wolf would less inclined to do that.
Of course, on the other hand, possibly more likely, are those who voted for majorities to try and save Cat. The Hoo majority standing out the most because of its number and because Cat was in it himself. That being said, I can understand why you guys are voting for Spider but I don't think I'll vote for him. Since Bobbi fits the same criteria of suspicion for me as Spider and is helping to vote for him, I'll vote for Bobbi.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
froggyg was the only one to vote cat not with the intention to shoot her. When deb voted cat, froggyg didn't take back her spv, which she normally does and cat was unlikely to be shot at that time, somewhat showing that she thought cat won't be shot but her vote on cat may prove her innocence if cat comes out wolf in later rounds. Later, when cat majority piled up, froggyg wasn't there, so, her reactions at that point can't be determined.
Froggyg's post in this round deliberately tries to point out her humanness and makes me suspicious.
I think you all know by now where my vote goes
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Froggyg's post in this round deliberately tries to point out her humanness and makes me suspicious.
I think you all know by now where my vote goes
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
How was I an anti cat voter? I just didn't vote Cat?
I was considering it as early as round one ( I went back and checked I mistakenly believed it to be a tie ) but since almost all of you were completely apathetic that round I couldnt justify shooting (outright) one of the few players posting.
Deb, your takeaway from the round is I tried to 'pin suspicion on you. I voted you early, you played your trump card ("there is no wolf here") so I changed my vote and referenced this claim several times to say you shouldnt actually be shot. I even had to do this subtlety since you get upset when I reference this tactic. Harry's analysis focusing on a non-eating after a wolf shooting is a bit out of place (considering it revolves around Deb who doesnt really need too much evidence for her defense atm.)
As for Bradon, what's even the point, you've really developed a honest to God complex regarding me, it's built on a thousand misconeptions and your false recollections of things that never happen. If I suspect you, you get angry (thats not allowed)....which I rarely do anyway but somehow you think happens all the time. If I challenge you, I'm insulting you, but worse yet if I agree with you, I'm suspicious. I guess my only tactic will be to completely ignore you, since any interaction is a breach of etiquette somehow..
To Rog, why would the Hoo majority stand out? We both voted Hoo quite early, the Deb majority and Harry majority (for a time) were all viable alts. And Cat would want to vote away from his partners so his partners could potentially switch. Either way, I'm not sure why the KZ eating is questioned, he cast the deciding vote on the wolf shot, who is a better eating choice?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I was considering it as early as round one ( I went back and checked I mistakenly believed it to be a tie ) but since almost all of you were completely apathetic that round I couldnt justify shooting (outright) one of the few players posting.
Deb, your takeaway from the round is I tried to 'pin suspicion on you. I voted you early, you played your trump card ("there is no wolf here") so I changed my vote and referenced this claim several times to say you shouldnt actually be shot. I even had to do this subtlety since you get upset when I reference this tactic. Harry's analysis focusing on a non-eating after a wolf shooting is a bit out of place (considering it revolves around Deb who doesnt really need too much evidence for her defense atm.)
As for Bradon, what's even the point, you've really developed a honest to God complex regarding me, it's built on a thousand misconeptions and your false recollections of things that never happen. If I suspect you, you get angry (thats not allowed)....which I rarely do anyway but somehow you think happens all the time. If I challenge you, I'm insulting you, but worse yet if I agree with you, I'm suspicious. I guess my only tactic will be to completely ignore you, since any interaction is a breach of etiquette somehow..
To Rog, why would the Hoo majority stand out? We both voted Hoo quite early, the Deb majority and Harry majority (for a time) were all viable alts. And Cat would want to vote away from his partners so his partners could potentially switch. Either way, I'm not sure why the KZ eating is questioned, he cast the deciding vote on the wolf shot, who is a better eating choice?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well that all said, is mainly defensive in nature.....so will post up some offense in a little bit...get to take my time since this is probably going to be a 'Morning's with Spider' activity level
No obvious suspects atm....
I don't think Bradon is a good vote (probably means I'm suspicious ) this is just how she is whenever I do something. It would take quite a bold combination of self awareness and acting for her to go down this road as a wolf.
The quieter players (Fathead, Jayo) are a little tough to read right now.
I'm still not suspicious of Harry, but his post was a quite circuitous route to say the person who is now pretty obviously human (Deb) is human. The non-eating of someone (in round 2 no less) is an awfully tenuous basis for any approach. That;s without the caveats of a wolf just being shot (and the non-eaten in question not even voting for him) and that if I had divined Deb, saying she played her human 'trump' and taking her out of a majority would be pretty safe bet I hadn't divined Deb.
I also disagree with Monkey's take on Froggy (it sounds very damned if you do damned if you don't) but I've said enough for now
Will review game see if anything melds together.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
No obvious suspects atm....
I don't think Bradon is a good vote (probably means I'm suspicious ) this is just how she is whenever I do something. It would take quite a bold combination of self awareness and acting for her to go down this road as a wolf.
The quieter players (Fathead, Jayo) are a little tough to read right now.
I'm still not suspicious of Harry, but his post was a quite circuitous route to say the person who is now pretty obviously human (Deb) is human. The non-eating of someone (in round 2 no less) is an awfully tenuous basis for any approach. That;s without the caveats of a wolf just being shot (and the non-eaten in question not even voting for him) and that if I had divined Deb, saying she played her human 'trump' and taking her out of a majority would be pretty safe bet I hadn't divined Deb.
I also disagree with Monkey's take on Froggy (it sounds very damned if you do damned if you don't) but I've said enough for now
Will review game see if anything melds together.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Hi folks, sorry buried at work but I'll have actual input when I get home
In the mean time, please enjoy this spooky SPV
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
In the mean time, please enjoy this spooky SPV
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
mnkgyl, I did not change my vote because it was very early in the round when I first voted for Cat as an SPV. When I checked back later, there were other majorities forming, so I saw no need to change my vote. Reading your post, it sounds like I'm guilty since I did not change my vote but then again guilty if I would have changed it.
Now this part makes no sense. You say I'm furry because I didn't change my vote. You then say that if Cat was a wolf, it may prove my innocence. Also, since Cat was in the largest majority toward the end of the round, what is with your comment: "in later rounds"?
First off, why on earth would I shoot a fellow wolf without being forced to in order to appear Human? Especially this early in the game? In my opinion, you are the one who is sending out wolf vibes in the way you seem to be trying to twist things to suit your own needs. Lastly, the reason I sounded Human is because I am Human - are you?! (There you go, Spidy)
At this point, mky has just jumped to the top of my possible wolf list.
I think Bobbi is Human.
I also feel deb is Human because she voted for Cat in Round 1 and 2. Cat voted for deb in Round 2.
I'm leaning toward Human on LR because Cat voted for him in Round 1.
I'm also leaning toward Human regarding Spidy. Of course I always have a problem reading him.
Everyone else is either quite or close to it, so I'm not sure how to decide on them.
At this point, I'm going to put out a vote on mnkgyl due to his conflicting points in his post. No, this is not a retaliation vote because he voted for me, but because he raised a bit of a flag to me.
Since there are still about 14 hours left in this round, I will definitely keep a watch on new posts and votes. If I see a need to do so, I will change my vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
but her vote on cat may prove her innocence if cat comes out wolf in later rounds
Now this part makes no sense. You say I'm furry because I didn't change my vote. You then say that if Cat was a wolf, it may prove my innocence. Also, since Cat was in the largest majority toward the end of the round, what is with your comment: "in later rounds"?
First off, why on earth would I shoot a fellow wolf without being forced to in order to appear Human? Especially this early in the game? In my opinion, you are the one who is sending out wolf vibes in the way you seem to be trying to twist things to suit your own needs. Lastly, the reason I sounded Human is because I am Human - are you?! (There you go, Spidy)
At this point, mky has just jumped to the top of my possible wolf list.
I think Bobbi is Human.
I also feel deb is Human because she voted for Cat in Round 1 and 2. Cat voted for deb in Round 2.
I'm leaning toward Human on LR because Cat voted for him in Round 1.
I'm also leaning toward Human regarding Spidy. Of course I always have a problem reading him.
Everyone else is either quite or close to it, so I'm not sure how to decide on them.
At this point, I'm going to put out a vote on mnkgyl due to his conflicting points in his post. No, this is not a retaliation vote because he voted for me, but because he raised a bit of a flag to me.
Since there are still about 14 hours left in this round, I will definitely keep a watch on new posts and votes. If I see a need to do so, I will change my vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Monkey is trying to say, that when Deb joined your SPV, in lieu of keeping you SPV (which Monkey suggests is your normal M.O.) you left it, knowing/guessing, Cat was not in real danger, an if Cat was (down the line) found to be a wolf, you could point to that vote and claim humanity. I don't agree with his view, it just sounds like postdiction after the fact (i.e hindsight 20/20)
This is an important round for a reason I will cover more toward the end, as much as I would like to make it easy on myself and suspect Harry I really can't right now, but Id like to see some more 'offensive' activity from him. Jayo I'm leaning human (complete hunch) Fathead is a big ? mark...I think LogRog would resemble Smithy as a wolf (I don't yet know what to look for) Hoo is probably human but we still have to observe the possibility of a sinking ship - save one approach.
I guess I'm slightly leaning Cab by elimination but not enough to change SPV just yet
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
This is an important round for a reason I will cover more toward the end, as much as I would like to make it easy on myself and suspect Harry I really can't right now, but Id like to see some more 'offensive' activity from him. Jayo I'm leaning human (complete hunch) Fathead is a big ? mark...I think LogRog would resemble Smithy as a wolf (I don't yet know what to look for) Hoo is probably human but we still have to observe the possibility of a sinking ship - save one approach.
I guess I'm slightly leaning Cab by elimination but not enough to change SPV just yet
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
DrH's thoughts:
The cat voters should not be targets this round. Why take out likely humans when we have so many other viable candidates?
deb - voted cat because of something she said in another game (wasn't there, don't know) but stuck to it, which a wolf could easily have gotten out of in a pinch.
froggy - her SPV for cat isn't something I think she'd do as a wolf. Some wolves might SPV their fellows, but I don't see that as a froggy move.
kz - eaten, obvs... but it was a late switch, did he know something?
DrHoo - honestly, was saving my skin. But it's human skin, not wolfy skin.
I shall stick to the mnky vote because he's going after froggy. Again, I think we should be looking at players who were either against the cat vote or staying out of it altogether.
The cat voters should not be targets this round. Why take out likely humans when we have so many other viable candidates?
deb - voted cat because of something she said in another game (wasn't there, don't know) but stuck to it, which a wolf could easily have gotten out of in a pinch.
froggy - her SPV for cat isn't something I think she'd do as a wolf. Some wolves might SPV their fellows, but I don't see that as a froggy move.
kz - eaten, obvs... but it was a late switch, did he know something?
DrHoo - honestly, was saving my skin. But it's human skin, not wolfy skin.
I shall stick to the mnky vote because he's going after froggy. Again, I think we should be looking at players who were either against the cat vote or staying out of it altogether.
bradon182001 voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for The_Spider
DrHoo voted for mnkgyl
froggygg voted for mnkgyl
Jayo voted for debc1
LogicalRoger voted for bradon182001
mnkgyl voted for froggygg
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
debc1 voted for The_Spider
DrHoo voted for mnkgyl
froggygg voted for mnkgyl
Jayo voted for debc1
LogicalRoger voted for bradon182001
mnkgyl voted for froggygg
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
voting with no post Harry (you've been on a counter SPV kick lately so claiming SPV won't fly) what is going on.
bradon182001 voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for The_Spider
DrHoo voted for mnkgyl
froggygg voted for mnkgyl
HarryPutter voted for LogicalRoger
Jayo voted for debc1
LogicalRoger voted for bradon182001
mnkgyl voted for froggygg
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Someone please post something interesting
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
bradon182001 voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for The_Spider
DrHoo voted for mnkgyl
froggygg voted for mnkgyl
HarryPutter voted for LogicalRoger
Jayo voted for debc1
LogicalRoger voted for bradon182001
mnkgyl voted for froggygg
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Someone please post something interesting
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
but dan why didn't you vote cat? I think everyone was active were they not??
and you say cat was a poster when you constantly complain he doesn't post much or just post an
you are not an anti cat voter(I really didn't see any of that it was mostly an anti nad voters) but I am surprised you didn't jump at a vote for him.
also I don't know why you would go after me so early and for what reason? this and thanks for reiterating my humanness maybe you can say it a few more times just in case the wolves aren't paying attention I just don't know why I was a good alternative.
jayo- that is just spooky
I don't think the cat voters have a wolf in it, his majority came about toward the end of the round, no need to do that as a wolf(it would be kinda selfish or self aggrandizing to me) with the only exception maybe is hoo, which if he is a wolf I have to kinda reference my parenthesis that being said I would take him to the human category.
monkey and rog also peak my interest. need to read back to shore up my thoughts
and just to make him feel not left out and as my normal play harry is suspicious. commit
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and you say cat was a poster when you constantly complain he doesn't post much or just post an
you are not an anti cat voter(I really didn't see any of that it was mostly an anti nad voters) but I am surprised you didn't jump at a vote for him.
also I don't know why you would go after me so early and for what reason? this and thanks for reiterating my humanness maybe you can say it a few more times just in case the wolves aren't paying attention I just don't know why I was a good alternative.
jayo- that is just spooky
I don't think the cat voters have a wolf in it, his majority came about toward the end of the round, no need to do that as a wolf(it would be kinda selfish or self aggrandizing to me) with the only exception maybe is hoo, which if he is a wolf I have to kinda reference my parenthesis that being said I would take him to the human category.
monkey and rog also peak my interest. need to read back to shore up my thoughts
and just to make him feel not left out and as my normal play harry is suspicious. commit
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wait a minute
did harry really spv'd?? really harry!!!don't make me go back and find that game where you said all that about being against spv's and you made a big deal about it also
he really needs a good noogie
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did harry really spv'd?? really harry!!!don't make me go back and find that game where you said all that about being against spv's and you made a big deal about it also
he really needs a good noogie
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I am talking about this game and these specific situations, not generic trends or traits. Look at round 1, I wanted to make some kind of majority, so I voted Nad (as already discussed in regards to Monkey) I was aware my switch from Fat to Nad actually created an MoO but it was a vote with some logical basis (disagreable for sure, but a basis nonetheless) As you can see, Round 1 was a very very sparsely populated round (the last half). I woke up, posted, hit a bike ride, caught the flyers game, reutrned to find...no new posts....it continued about that way after that.
As you can see, Cat WAS on at the end of the round and posted. Sure, maybe he wouldnt have posted if he didn't have to defend himself, but in an arsenal full of people who didn't give a dam about Rd 1, at least Cat was around to post. As I said, I was tempted to kill him out right (my comment about testing your 'motivation' was an allusion to voting Cat) but he logged on just then. I (mistakenly) thought it was a tie, ran out for a red bull, the pharmacy was closed so it took a little longer than I would have liked, and I only had a few minutes to reflect, so I just left what I thought was a tie.
I don't see why you consider yourself immune to round 2 prodding. I explained MY motivation for voting you (which is all I can possibly explain). Sometimes sticking to a 'script' is the easiest way forward. I relented within what...a couple hours? (also consider it was cat/Spid voting you so early...which is something of a rarity for wolves to do so quickly togehter)
Not that I expect you to believe me, as I got to gym, I was tempted to vote cat for AGAIN alluding to bad statistics, but I figured I would let those around in the last hour work to their own conclusions (sadly it was another hour of nothing ) except for the good work of KZ
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
As you can see, Cat WAS on at the end of the round and posted. Sure, maybe he wouldnt have posted if he didn't have to defend himself, but in an arsenal full of people who didn't give a dam about Rd 1, at least Cat was around to post. As I said, I was tempted to kill him out right (my comment about testing your 'motivation' was an allusion to voting Cat) but he logged on just then. I (mistakenly) thought it was a tie, ran out for a red bull, the pharmacy was closed so it took a little longer than I would have liked, and I only had a few minutes to reflect, so I just left what I thought was a tie.
I don't see why you consider yourself immune to round 2 prodding. I explained MY motivation for voting you (which is all I can possibly explain). Sometimes sticking to a 'script' is the easiest way forward. I relented within what...a couple hours? (also consider it was cat/Spid voting you so early...which is something of a rarity for wolves to do so quickly togehter)
Not that I expect you to believe me, as I got to gym, I was tempted to vote cat for AGAIN alluding to bad statistics, but I figured I would let those around in the last hour work to their own conclusions (sadly it was another hour of nothing ) except for the good work of KZ
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
At the very least Harry needs a kick in the pants, changing my SPV to a Harry 'on notice' vote
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
To explain my above post- I got wolfish vibes from froggygg and then i went all the way with my thinking of why she may be a wolf. I know I went overboard but that does't mean that I have cleared froggyg from the charges of carrying prohibited stuff (wolf fur coat).
And yeah..... Harry is suspiciously less active.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
And yeah..... Harry is suspiciously less active.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
The_Spider wrote:
I feel combative today sorry
you obviously noted a change in harry's playing. thanks for having my back
I am satisfied with your other explanations
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voting with no post Harry (you've been on a counter SPV kick lately so claiming SPV won't fly) what is going on.
I feel combative today sorry
you obviously noted a change in harry's playing. thanks for having my back
I am satisfied with your other explanations
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I don't know what you ate angry at, that I agreed with you before you posted?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Wahooey for bringing down a fur ball! I'm voting HP because he seems likely to be howling at the moon. Mnky also might be a naughty boy. My vote is (currently) changeable between those two.
Edit: Mngky gets my vote after all because I don't understand his vote.
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Edit: Mngky gets my vote after all because I don't understand his vote.
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
I think harry/rog are two best possibilities , mnk was just working backwards from a conclusion (a recipe for tunnel vision and loss of objectivoty) but his thought process is understandable
Will keep vote and see how things develop
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Will keep vote and see how things develop
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Changing to Harry. He is next on my wolf list and I need to save myself.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
I will be in and out until the end...I forgot that Fathead is a good candidate too (if only for his complete quietness)....Jayo, I know you're busy and I sympathize, but we need to hear from you bro.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
LogicalRoger wrote:
I think it was the most logical eating for 2 reasons from the wolves perspective:
1 - He cast the decisive vote on Cat when under no pressure to do so
2 - As Seer, he could have had Cat divined and thought to jump late in the majority to hide
Debster wrote:
Yeah, sorry sometimes my SPV's come out of nowhere!!
Spid wrote:
I never am comfortable clearing someone based on an eating, particularly early in the game when 3 wolves all cast votes in the dark of each other's line of thinking.
Scenario:
Cat voted:
1 - Cabaret
2 - Waylander
3 - Dr. Hoo
HP voted:
1 - KZ
2 - Froggy
3 - FatHead
Jayo voted:
1 - LR
2 - Waylander
3 - Debster
This would actually get Way in the soup despite not only receiving no votes at all from HP, but not even being either of the other 2 wolves 1st choice in this example
I'm not saying HP isn't human, I'm just basically illustrating my point of being uncomfortable with reading too much into eatings especially when we have 3 voters and even more so when it is a round 1 munching where typically we learn very little in Round 1's, though this game was slightly more informative I grant you than usual
Tomorrow assuming I am still in the game, I will if I have time make another of my rambling lists looking at peeps interactions and activities round by round (As a human this time, not as a wolf trying to look helpful like last time out )
Anyway, for this round there is so much interaction, accusations flying around that we can probably rule out a few wolf partnerships at least. With the Seer still kicking about here somewhere, gunning for your fellow wolf's throat is probably not a wise course of action.
There is understandably a lot of defensiveness around which is natural given the higher than usual levels of accusations going, so it is difficult to infer which are genuine and which are deflecting wolves. I am not 100% at all on anyone but a short list would see me particularly wary of the trio currently voting for Mnky - Cab, Dr W and Froggy. Of the 3 I will put the fur on Cab, nothing much more than a hunch from a bunch
I would think a little more stirring of the pot might help, so I will tie up the votes between HP and Mnky - not set in stone and quite changeable
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Actually, I'm not sure why the wolves chose to eat KZ, but it makes me less suspicious of Cab now because of how a wolf would less inclined to do that.
I think it was the most logical eating for 2 reasons from the wolves perspective:
1 - He cast the decisive vote on Cat when under no pressure to do so
2 - As Seer, he could have had Cat divined and thought to jump late in the majority to hide
Debster wrote:
jayo- that is just spooky
Yeah, sorry sometimes my SPV's come out of nowhere!!
Spid wrote:
I still like the Waylander eating as a (very tenuous and low impact, but valid nonetheless) reason to not suspect Harry
I never am comfortable clearing someone based on an eating, particularly early in the game when 3 wolves all cast votes in the dark of each other's line of thinking.
Scenario:
Cat voted:
1 - Cabaret
2 - Waylander
3 - Dr. Hoo
HP voted:
1 - KZ
2 - Froggy
3 - FatHead
Jayo voted:
1 - LR
2 - Waylander
3 - Debster
This would actually get Way in the soup despite not only receiving no votes at all from HP, but not even being either of the other 2 wolves 1st choice in this example
I'm not saying HP isn't human, I'm just basically illustrating my point of being uncomfortable with reading too much into eatings especially when we have 3 voters and even more so when it is a round 1 munching where typically we learn very little in Round 1's, though this game was slightly more informative I grant you than usual
Tomorrow assuming I am still in the game, I will if I have time make another of my rambling lists looking at peeps interactions and activities round by round (As a human this time, not as a wolf trying to look helpful like last time out )
Anyway, for this round there is so much interaction, accusations flying around that we can probably rule out a few wolf partnerships at least. With the Seer still kicking about here somewhere, gunning for your fellow wolf's throat is probably not a wise course of action.
There is understandably a lot of defensiveness around which is natural given the higher than usual levels of accusations going, so it is difficult to infer which are genuine and which are deflecting wolves. I am not 100% at all on anyone but a short list would see me particularly wary of the trio currently voting for Mnky - Cab, Dr W and Froggy. Of the 3 I will put the fur on Cab, nothing much more than a hunch from a bunch
I would think a little more stirring of the pot might help, so I will tie up the votes between HP and Mnky - not set in stone and quite changeable
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
The_Spider wrote:
Haha, was building my monster post as you typed
Kicked butt in work today and met my deadlines, can prepare for the 3 day weekend in relative peace now!!
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I will be in and out until the end...I forgot that Fathead is a good candidate too (if only for his complete quietness)....Jayo, I know you're busy and I sympathize, but we need to hear from you bro.
Haha, was building my monster post as you typed
Kicked butt in work today and met my deadlines, can prepare for the 3 day weekend in relative peace now!!
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Okay, serves me right for looking at the game's voting list and skimming over everything.
I also see that we have more majorities forming shifting from Spider to Harry and Mnk. I would like to hear why Harry has voted for me without a clear reason, but at this point it could be a SPV he'll change after. Now if he leads people to my door, then I'll definitely give him another look over, but it seems inoffensive and likely human for now.
The reasoning for Mnk also seems unlikely to me. Of course, I've stated a similar theory so maybe I feel that much extra defensive on the subject but I could see a wolf going after his friend, even this early.
But we need to hear more from our suspects this round otherwise I'll keep my vote where it is.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
I also see that we have more majorities forming shifting from Spider to Harry and Mnk. I would like to hear why Harry has voted for me without a clear reason, but at this point it could be a SPV he'll change after. Now if he leads people to my door, then I'll definitely give him another look over, but it seems inoffensive and likely human for now.
The reasoning for Mnk also seems unlikely to me. Of course, I've stated a similar theory so maybe I feel that much extra defensive on the subject but I could see a wolf going after his friend, even this early.
But we need to hear more from our suspects this round otherwise I'll keep my vote where it is.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Just under 6 hours left - state of play
Day
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for The_Spider
caberet voted for mnkgyl
debc1 voted for The_Spider
DrHoo voted for mnkgyl
froggygg voted for mnkgyl
HarryPutter voted for LogicalRoger
Jayo voted for HarryPutter
LogicalRoger voted for bradon182001
mnkgyl voted for HarryPutter
The_Spider voted for HarryPutter
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Day
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for The_Spider
caberet voted for mnkgyl
debc1 voted for The_Spider
DrHoo voted for mnkgyl
froggygg voted for mnkgyl
HarryPutter voted for LogicalRoger
Jayo voted for HarryPutter
LogicalRoger voted for bradon182001
mnkgyl voted for HarryPutter
The_Spider voted for HarryPutter
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Before this round goes all to pot, I've switched over to LR. Looking at mnkgyl, I think his early round actions were suspicious, but he's switching things up and being involved, I'm willing to let him go another round.
LR on the other hand is playing a defensive game for no good reason and I'm wondering if he's not trying to hide some furryness. My thinking's a bid dodgy but it's late afternoon and I need a nap.
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LR on the other hand is playing a defensive game for no good reason and I'm wondering if he's not trying to hide some furryness. My thinking's a bid dodgy but it's late afternoon and I need a nap.
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I can see where u are coming from, rod first post rubed me the wrong way, like he wanted me shot and then subsequently have bradon get shot after my id revealed
Could change to rog, but harry needs to post or I'll keep him on principle to the bitter end
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Could change to rog, but harry needs to post or I'll keep him on principle to the bitter end
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
my list
I am getting rog and monkey switched in my head
bradon182001 - not sure yet, leaning more human
caberet - no idea, none whatsoever
debc1 - I have a certificate
DrHoo - going human
FatHead - where is he??where is he from??
froggygg - going human
HarryPutter - maybe he needs to recap his wwg philosophy for me again
Jayo - he is making sense, especially about the eatings, yet he made sense to me the last game
LogicalRoger- on the fence, don't know
mnkgyl - going over the fence to the wolf side
The_Spider - feeling not as confident in my vote as I did earlier
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I am getting rog and monkey switched in my head
bradon182001 - not sure yet, leaning more human
caberet - no idea, none whatsoever
debc1 - I have a certificate
DrHoo - going human
FatHead - where is he??where is he from??
froggygg - going human
HarryPutter - maybe he needs to recap his wwg philosophy for me again
Jayo - he is making sense, especially about the eatings, yet he made sense to me the last game
LogicalRoger- on the fence, don't know
mnkgyl - going over the fence to the wolf side
The_Spider - feeling not as confident in my vote as I did earlier
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The_Spider wrote:
first of all I didn't eat angry and I am not angry
I meant that game when harry said he didn't believe in spv's
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I don't know what you ate angry at, that I agreed with you before you posted?
first of all I didn't eat angry and I am not angry
I meant that game when harry said he didn't believe in spv's
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I can see where u are coming from, rod first post rubed me the wrong way, like he wanted me shot and then subsequently have bradon get shot after my id revealed
Spider, if I wanted you shot I would have voted for you. Since when is it a bad idea to suspect players for how they voted? I still think it's a bit suspect to vote in alongside a wolf, but I'll grant you that it might be a little too suspicious to do so. I should have thought about that when I first voted this round. But in my defense it's something to go by at least.Also, Hoo, when am I not on the defensive? I thought that response to Harry's vote was mild, but apparently not. Should I have asked for votes? That's the opposite of being defensive, right? I guess it's okay for others to notice Harry's odd behaviour but when I do I guess that makes me a wolf. This game is still weird to me.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Fair enough rog, bit my point angle is (since at least I know I'm human ....or u would grant as a wolf I at least must pretend this is so) shooting me would look bad. You want me shot with clean hands ideallt.
It was just a thought
Harru, what ate you doing? If u have a real life issue I understand, but shy of that, what is going on, u a re kind of forcing our hands
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It was just a thought
Harru, what ate you doing? If u have a real life issue I understand, but shy of that, what is going on, u a re kind of forcing our hands
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well, rog, I understand that. Just going with me insides.
I do wonder what Harry is doing. If human, he's doing something risky; if a wolf it's downright foolish.
I don't think I'll jump on the bandwagon, but his identity may speak volumes next round.
I do wonder what Harry is doing. If human, he's doing something risky; if a wolf it's downright foolish.
I don't think I'll jump on the bandwagon, but his identity may speak volumes next round.
I don't think harry would be so utterly contemptably useless as a wolf I'll assume a personal emergency
I will take my life in my own hands, (I expect log to tie me up) but I a have the courage of my convictions
You owe me harry
Sorry log
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I will take my life in my own hands, (I expect log to tie me up) but I a have the courage of my convictions
You owe me harry
Sorry log
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I don't see why you're trusting Harry when he's been acting so odd, but I changed my vote to Harry. I don't know if you have an agenda for that vote, Spider, or if you're just playing quick and loose, but for now I suspect Harry's behaviour more so than I do yours.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Its not so much I trust him, his ego won't allow a fellow wolf to be shot without him playing a role somehow, so I doubt he would outright ignore the cat shooting, also, his complete uselessness this round is either a personal emergency, or a human obnoxiousness, wolf harry needs to be involved in some way.
I'm willing to put my own soul at hazard for the sake of it, let's see how it plays out
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'm willing to put my own soul at hazard for the sake of it, let's see how it plays out
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Harry Putter...
was human
It's a disease, not a punch line
was human
It's a disease, not a punch line
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