The Werewolf Game
Game #3174: The Resistance: 2nd Wave
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TEAMS POSTED
Welcome to the 4th Round!
Now I bet you're all wondering about the mission....Well...The mission FAILED .
A Spy posing as a Resistance member infiltrated and sabotaged the mission. Dr Hoo, medical and remote communications expert, was found strangled with the wire of a defibrillator. The Resistance base remote communications were ransacked.
With this equipment, the Spies now have the ability to communicate privately without interference from the Resistance. They hold their own TB to discuss strategies to crush the Resistance.
Current Status
- 3 spies live, the Commander is dead
- 2 missions succeeded, 1 mission failed
- The Spies now have a TB
If the mission this round succeeds, the Resistance will have their coveted shortlist
If the mission this round fails, the Spies will be able to flip the ID of one future shot (that is, if a Spy is shot, they will have the option for me to post that a Resistance was shot; if a Resistance is shot, they will have the option to tell me to post that a Spy was shot).
SEE NEXT POST FOR TEAMS!
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Welcome to the 4th Round!
Now I bet you're all wondering about the mission....Well...The mission FAILED .
A Spy posing as a Resistance member infiltrated and sabotaged the mission. Dr Hoo, medical and remote communications expert, was found strangled with the wire of a defibrillator. The Resistance base remote communications were ransacked.
With this equipment, the Spies now have the ability to communicate privately without interference from the Resistance. They hold their own TB to discuss strategies to crush the Resistance.
Current Status
- 3 spies live, the Commander is dead
- 2 missions succeeded, 1 mission failed
- The Spies now have a TB
If the mission this round succeeds, the Resistance will have their coveted shortlist
If the mission this round fails, the Spies will be able to flip the ID of one future shot (that is, if a Spy is shot, they will have the option for me to post that a Resistance was shot; if a Resistance is shot, they will have the option to tell me to post that a Spy was shot).
SEE NEXT POST FOR TEAMS!
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Team Options
Please mark whether you approve or reject these teams selected by Spider and Cat
Team 1: Spid's Kids
LEADER: The_Spider
- Jayo
- Catmandon
- Mnky
Team 2: The Fat Cats
LEADER: Catmandon
- Jayo
- HABS
- DebC
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Please mark whether you approve or reject these teams selected by Spider and Cat
Team 1: Spid's Kids
LEADER: The_Spider
- Jayo
- Catmandon
- Mnky
Team 2: The Fat Cats
LEADER: Catmandon
- Jayo
- HABS
- DebC
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Hmmmm tells a little about the profile of at least one of the wolves....will be back when I get in the office.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Players on the failed mission were:
Team 2 - De Danske Drager
LEADER: Evita
Jayo
HABS
DebC
Jessey
It is likely one of the above is a wolf.
Back later to vote once others have voiced thoughts.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Team 2 - De Danske Drager
LEADER: Evita
Jayo
HABS
DebC
Jessey
It is likely one of the above is a wolf.
Back later to vote once others have voiced thoughts.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Some c0ck roaches scurried under the woodwork not posting this morning...but I know Harry is not a fan of discussing that so I will refrain.
HABS post definitely is a little odd to me.
"It is likely one of the above is a wolf" is oddly a weak endorsement of an obvious situation (yes technically a human could vote FAIL but that is not worth seriously considering). I don't have the words to articulate this with, it just seems odd.
We do have some info to work with, we are dealing with, more or less, a similar team through round 1 to round 3 with slight changes (iirc). So we have a wolf who played ball early and then got spooked when the chips were down. Interesting because in effect, by failing the mission, we are given a 'short list' of the above suspects anyway.
Will think for a bit and maybe do some generic pair overview analysis
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
HABS post definitely is a little odd to me.
"It is likely one of the above is a wolf" is oddly a weak endorsement of an obvious situation (yes technically a human could vote FAIL but that is not worth seriously considering). I don't have the words to articulate this with, it just seems odd.
We do have some info to work with, we are dealing with, more or less, a similar team through round 1 to round 3 with slight changes (iirc). So we have a wolf who played ball early and then got spooked when the chips were down. Interesting because in effect, by failing the mission, we are given a 'short list' of the above suspects anyway.
Will think for a bit and maybe do some generic pair overview analysis
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Heck with it gotta start somewhere, we need discussion this round not procrastination, I am voting HABS
what do you guys think of that?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
what do you guys think of that?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think you are making a huge mistake
I am voting Jess as her reasoning for suspecting me last round was flawed (to me anyway)
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I am voting Jess as her reasoning for suspecting me last round was flawed (to me anyway)
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
morning
as far as the habs vote- just not sure, her wolf skills have been finely honed and she has bamboozled me in the past.
funny when she is definitely human I find her the most suspicious(in retrospection of course)
the round started around 1 am and you 2 are up awfully early, so I don't know about the scurring
I need to look back at jess' comment
brb
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as far as the habs vote- just not sure, her wolf skills have been finely honed and she has bamboozled me in the past.
funny when she is definitely human I find her the most suspicious(in retrospection of course)
the round started around 1 am and you 2 are up awfully early, so I don't know about the scurring
I need to look back at jess' comment
brb
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ok reread the habs/monkey/jess/dan exchange
I can't really get riled about it, with so little to go on(unless I am totally missing something) you just have to go on gut
but after rereading a few things has raised my curiosity
1. monkey- I found it funny you wanted to increase your word count- was this an issue in the past?
2. habbie- photoshopping someone out of a picture, I am so intrigued and I did giggle about it several times
I am still figuring out the game, does everyone vote to approve the mission? even though you are not on the success team??
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I can't really get riled about it, with so little to go on(unless I am totally missing something) you just have to go on gut
but after rereading a few things has raised my curiosity
1. monkey- I found it funny you wanted to increase your word count- was this an issue in the past?
2. habbie- photoshopping someone out of a picture, I am so intrigued and I did giggle about it several times
I am still figuring out the game, does everyone vote to approve the mission? even though you are not on the success team??
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debc1 wrote:
I was wondering the same thing. Do all three spies have the abity to tank the mission? Or do we now know for sure there is at least one wolf on the team?
It is an old picture (taken about 12 years. ago) of my brother and our neice and nephews that we had at tbe time. It is a great pic of him and the kids, who now range in age from 16 to 21, when tbey were little.
I would like to frame and hang it, but unfortunately, his psycho ex is in the picture.
Obviously, his current wife and mother of his 4 year old, knows he has had other relationships, but why slap her in the face with it. So would like the nutjob removed.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
...does everyone vote to approve the mission? even though you are not on the success team??
I was wondering the same thing. Do all three spies have the abity to tank the mission? Or do we now know for sure there is at least one wolf on the team?
habbie- photoshopping someone out of a picture, I am so intrigued
It is an old picture (taken about 12 years. ago) of my brother and our neice and nephews that we had at tbe time. It is a great pic of him and the kids, who now range in age from 16 to 21, when tbey were little.
I would like to frame and hang it, but unfortunately, his psycho ex is in the picture.
Obviously, his current wife and mother of his 4 year old, knows he has had other relationships, but why slap her in the face with it. So would like the nutjob removed.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I suppose you deserve some leeway seeing as you were not in the last game, but your approach is becoming difficult to ignore. The continued drive at the 'wolf in the fail group' as if it is some conclusion that needed to be reasoned at, or worked toward is suspicious. It reeks of trying to give the appearance of thinking and working for progress when the conclusion has always been extremely obvious. There is a wolf in the fail group.
I think it has been well explained, and as a group leader one would think you would have determined this information previously one way or the other (notwithstanding that there would be no game concept at all if any spy could just 'poof' a FAIL even if not on the team).
In regards to HABS, I don't think it's convincing that you would have this confusion at this point in the game....Sorry Deb....but I could be convinced of your genuine confusion
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think it has been well explained, and as a group leader one would think you would have determined this information previously one way or the other (notwithstanding that there would be no game concept at all if any spy could just 'poof' a FAIL even if not on the team).
In regards to HABS, I don't think it's convincing that you would have this confusion at this point in the game....Sorry Deb....but I could be convinced of your genuine confusion
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
HABS2933 wrote:
It is an old picture (taken about 12 years. ago) of my brother and our neice and nephews that we had at tbe time. It is a great pic of him and the kids, who now range in age from 16 to 21, when tbey were little.
I would like to frame and hang it, but unfortunately, his psycho ex is in the picture.
Obviously, his current wife and mother of his 4 year old, knows he has had other relationships, but why slap her in the face with it. So would like the nutjob removed.
You would definitely need a photoshop-type program to do this properly. Essentially, you take the background of the image and color over (or add texture) where the unwanted person is. I think there are some sites like WebInPaint (tutorial) that let you do it for free, but I'm not sure how good it will be.
I might be able to do it depending on how complex it is. I'm pretty amateur-ish
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It is an old picture (taken about 12 years. ago) of my brother and our neice and nephews that we had at tbe time. It is a great pic of him and the kids, who now range in age from 16 to 21, when tbey were little.
I would like to frame and hang it, but unfortunately, his psycho ex is in the picture.
Obviously, his current wife and mother of his 4 year old, knows he has had other relationships, but why slap her in the face with it. So would like the nutjob removed.
You would definitely need a photoshop-type program to do this properly. Essentially, you take the background of the image and color over (or add texture) where the unwanted person is. I think there are some sites like WebInPaint (tutorial) that let you do it for free, but I'm not sure how good it will be.
I might be able to do it depending on how complex it is. I'm pretty amateur-ish
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Spider, I had assumed that but wanted to clarify. I am not sure what being group leader has to do with it. I didn't ask for, or do anything to deserve it.
Thanks HP. I will check out the site.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Thanks HP. I will check out the site.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
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The_Spider wrote:
who are you talking to in the first paragraph?
in regards to the last... what are you saying there???I am a tad dense?? if you didn't play in the first game you really don't have a feel for the second game
really dan I am not feeling the love
ohh I see habs good luck on that
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I suppose you deserve some leeway seeing as you were not in the last game, but your approach is becoming difficult to ignore. The continued drive at the 'wolf in the fail group' as if it is some conclusion that needed to be reasoned at, or worked toward is suspicious. It reeks of trying to give the appearance of thinking and working for progress when the conclusion has always been extremely obvious. There is a wolf in the fail group.
I think it has been well explained, and as a group leader one would think you would have determined this information previously one way or the other (notwithstanding that there would be no game concept at all if any spy could just 'poof' a FAIL even if not on the team).
In regards to HABS, I don't think it's convincing that you would have this confusion at this point in the game....Sorry Deb....but I could be convinced of your genuine confusion
I think it has been well explained, and as a group leader one would think you would have determined this information previously one way or the other (notwithstanding that there would be no game concept at all if any spy could just 'poof' a FAIL even if not on the team).
In regards to HABS, I don't think it's convincing that you would have this confusion at this point in the game....Sorry Deb....but I could be convinced of your genuine confusion
who are you talking to in the first paragraph?
in regards to the last... what are you saying there???I am a tad dense?? if you didn't play in the first game you really don't have a feel for the second game
really dan I am not feeling the love
ohh I see habs good luck on that
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reject, approve
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approve
reject
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Just to clarify: Resistance always have the option of PMing me whether they want to succeed or fail the mission. By default, I assume all Resistance succeed missions since missions benefit the Resistance.... but they do have the option to fail it.
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Jayo and Cat are on both teams, so given I trust Deb and myself over Dan and Monkey, i vote to reject team 1 and approve team 2.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I'm going to wait a little before voting on the teams since I'm not sure which one is more reliable at this point. Spid, just curious on your reasoning on habs? I wanna see if I can go off of your thinking in order to create some discussion in this game.
Will check back very shortly.
Will check back very shortly.
Well let's start with a premise/point I think we can agree on.
Wolves find it much harder to post content than humans. They have to 'invent', 'manufacture', 'create', however you want to put it. Their posts are acts, so they are not always so easy to create, especially in static, flat situations like the start of the round where there is no other posts/ideas to play reactive off of (easier to react to others opinions than create your own).
Going from there, HABS began the round with a rather tepid statement
"We likely have a wolf in group X [ the group that failed the mission ] "
This fits the bill admirably for a wolf looking to manufacture a decent sounding post, stay active, and get a litle bit of credit. A human reaching the same situation, in my expectation, would sort of be very quick, almost eager to have the information that "of these 5 people, 1 is a wolf" I would expect something like...."So we know one of X is a wolf, but not sure best bet right now" Nothing garaunteed, humans and wolves never act exactly as you expect, but her reaction struck me more wolflike than humanlike.
As for the later post....
It dosnt really seem to make sense to me that HABS doesnt as of yet, realize that only the players on the Team effect the success/failure of a mission. I know you didn't choose to be a leader, but you were chosen as a leader and you went ahead and elected a team. Presumably, you put some thought into it? Presumably you had a rationale for your choices, which would indicate understanding of the core principle of the game (the one you later went on to question). As your choices included several players on the team that previously passed a mission, it would seem you had a good idea the purpose of the team selection (or your choices were moderate coincidence). It doesnt seem totally credible to me, that she would not know the central rule of the game (well 'harry's game') at this stage based on what has happened so far.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Wolves find it much harder to post content than humans. They have to 'invent', 'manufacture', 'create', however you want to put it. Their posts are acts, so they are not always so easy to create, especially in static, flat situations like the start of the round where there is no other posts/ideas to play reactive off of (easier to react to others opinions than create your own).
Going from there, HABS began the round with a rather tepid statement
"We likely have a wolf in group X [ the group that failed the mission ] "
This fits the bill admirably for a wolf looking to manufacture a decent sounding post, stay active, and get a litle bit of credit. A human reaching the same situation, in my expectation, would sort of be very quick, almost eager to have the information that "of these 5 people, 1 is a wolf" I would expect something like...."So we know one of X is a wolf, but not sure best bet right now" Nothing garaunteed, humans and wolves never act exactly as you expect, but her reaction struck me more wolflike than humanlike.
As for the later post....
It dosnt really seem to make sense to me that HABS doesnt as of yet, realize that only the players on the Team effect the success/failure of a mission. I know you didn't choose to be a leader, but you were chosen as a leader and you went ahead and elected a team. Presumably, you put some thought into it? Presumably you had a rationale for your choices, which would indicate understanding of the core principle of the game (the one you later went on to question). As your choices included several players on the team that previously passed a mission, it would seem you had a good idea the purpose of the team selection (or your choices were moderate coincidence). It doesnt seem totally credible to me, that she would not know the central rule of the game (well 'harry's game') at this stage based on what has happened so far.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
maybe I am a tad dense
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I see where you're coming from, but your evidence is pertaining to how she said something. Maybe it's because there isn't a lot happening in this game but it seemed like information that wouldn't be thought through when someone is posting.
What stands out to me is that both habs and jessey were on the failed team and I'm kinda torn beteen the two of them.
What stands out to me is that both habs and jessey were on the failed team and I'm kinda torn beteen the two of them.
slammngirl92 wrote:
So wete Jayo, Evita, and Deb . . .
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
What stands out to me is that both habs and jessey were on the failed team and I'm kinda torn beteen the two of them.
So wete Jayo, Evita, and Deb . . .
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
The limited activity bodes ill consdiering tmrw is thanksgiving
Evi is a possibility, she usually has some degree of enthusiasm as a human, not so much a wolf tell, as she has a non-human tell....my other possible vote, but holding till more people open up here
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Evi is a possibility, she usually has some degree of enthusiasm as a human, not so much a wolf tell, as she has a non-human tell....my other possible vote, but holding till more people open up here
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
well there really isn't much activity
happy thanksgiving all who celebrate
going to vote monkey
nothing set in stone
but I do agree with evi not being very active
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happy thanksgiving all who celebrate
going to vote monkey
nothing set in stone
but I do agree with evi not being very active
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The_Spider wrote:
Well hopefully, the non American players will up their activity level to keep the game moving along.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
The limited activity bodes ill consdiering tmrw is thanksgiving
Well hopefully, the non American players will up their activity level to keep the game moving along.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Popping in to see how much has been discussed. Woah, I seemed to have missed a bit. I just picked up my sister from the airport. Today is a tad bit hectic, so I'll be back in a couple hours to fully read the posts and place my votes. (:
HABS2933 wrote:
Yes, but you two just stand out to me a little. The fact that you're getting defensive over that is suspicious. I didn't only call you out.
slammngirl92 wrote:
So wete Jayo, Evita, and Deb . . .
What stands out to me is that both habs and jessey were on the failed team and I'm kinda torn beteen the two of them.
So wete Jayo, Evita, and Deb . . .
Yes, but you two just stand out to me a little. The fact that you're getting defensive over that is suspicious. I didn't only call you out.
I am not defensive at all. The fact you keep trying to read more into what I say suggests to me you are deflecting.
I was merely pounting out there were more players on the failed mission than those you mentioned.
I am keeping my vote where it is.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I was merely pounting out there were more players on the failed mission than those you mentioned.
I am keeping my vote where it is.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
1 reject
2 approve
May not be on tomorrow..
Have two players tagged as wolfs..
Will vote for one of them..
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!
Please do not drink and drive,,be safe..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
2 approve
May not be on tomorrow..
Have two players tagged as wolfs..
Will vote for one of them..
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!
Please do not drink and drive,,be safe..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
I see no reason in approving team 2 given the fact that 3 of its members were on the failed mission team.
Approve-Reject
Voting Habs. She is definitely acting wolfish and seems like trying to pad against water (I am not able to remember the exact expression ) to save herself from drowning.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Approve-Reject
Voting Habs. She is definitely acting wolfish and seems like trying to pad against water (I am not able to remember the exact expression ) to save herself from drowning.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
^mnk took the words out of my mouth.
It wouldn't make sense to approve team 2 given that team is the one with players from the failed mission last round. Betting money that anyone that approves team 2 could be a wolf.
That leaves us with Cat, HABS, & Deb. (sorry if I missed someone).
Not familiar with how Cat plays, but apparently he's hard to read. Semi-suspicious over him.
Habs is the one I'm placing my vote on for her comments that just ring wrong.
Deb hasn't been under my radar much, but she might just be playing it low.
Approve team 1.
It wouldn't make sense to approve team 2 given that team is the one with players from the failed mission last round. Betting money that anyone that approves team 2 could be a wolf.
That leaves us with Cat, HABS, & Deb. (sorry if I missed someone).
Not familiar with how Cat plays, but apparently he's hard to read. Semi-suspicious over him.
Habs is the one I'm placing my vote on for her comments that just ring wrong.
Deb hasn't been under my radar much, but she might just be playing it low.
Approve team 1.
Approve
Reject
I was thinking that Slam could be furry and one of Spider/Cat too. Reading this round though, I agree that Habs is a little off in her posts so she is a reasonable shout at this point
Jess - your post makes a lot of sense and could be worth revisiting, the voting records certainly could yield up something interesting
Maybe we don't end the round early though to minimize the impact of Thanksgiving and the understandable reduced levels of activity that that would bring
Note: If the mission fails tonight, we have to assume we are in must lynch next round due to potential identity flipping if I have understood it correctly
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Reject
I was thinking that Slam could be furry and one of Spider/Cat too. Reading this round though, I agree that Habs is a little off in her posts so she is a reasonable shout at this point
Jess - your post makes a lot of sense and could be worth revisiting, the voting records certainly could yield up something interesting
Maybe we don't end the round early though to minimize the impact of Thanksgiving and the understandable reduced levels of activity that that would bring
Note: If the mission fails tonight, we have to assume we are in must lynch next round due to potential identity flipping if I have understood it correctly
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I think the ID flipping is not applicable to this round shot. Harry's comments needed on this.
Anyway, hoping that mission succeeds this round as well as we shoot a wolf this round.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Anyway, hoping that mission succeeds this round as well as we shoot a wolf this round.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Jess-ey wrote:
Both teams have players that were on the failed mission, so that logic is semi-invalid.
OR they are human and like the reasoning that I disputed that got me into this pickle are voting for the only team they have at least one clear.
And you have never misunderstood something and ad it come back to bite you?
I don't think the wolves would necessary approve team two. And besides - If I understand the game (which I think it is obvious I have some misunderstandings) there could just a easily be on team one.
I likely won't make it through this round, but I am 90% sure Jess is a wolf.
And have a TB now right? So this attack on me could be orchestrated
My best guess is that at least one of Jess, Jayo, Cat. and Monkey are furry. (90% sure on Jess. Not as sure about the others. Spider is a possibility as well.
As to the mission - of course it will succeed. IT would not make sense to fail it again.. With me gone that would leave a VERY short list of possible suspects.
The risk outweighs the reward.
Happy Thanksgiving to the Americans in the game.
Good luck to the humans. I think you will need it.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
It wouldn't make sense to approve team 2 given that team is the one with players from the failed mission last round.
Both teams have players that were on the failed mission, so that logic is semi-invalid.
Betting money that anyone that approves team 2 could be a wolf.
OR they are human and like the reasoning that I disputed that got me into this pickle are voting for the only team they have at least one clear.
Habs is the one I'm placing my vote on for her comments that just ring wrong.
And you have never misunderstood something and ad it come back to bite you?
I don't think the wolves would necessary approve team two. And besides - If I understand the game (which I think it is obvious I have some misunderstandings) there could just a easily be on team one.
I likely won't make it through this round, but I am 90% sure Jess is a wolf.
And have a TB now right? So this attack on me could be orchestrated
My best guess is that at least one of Jess, Jayo, Cat. and Monkey are furry. (90% sure on Jess. Not as sure about the others. Spider is a possibility as well.
As to the mission - of course it will succeed. IT would not make sense to fail it again.. With me gone that would leave a VERY short list of possible suspects.
The risk outweighs the reward.
Happy Thanksgiving to the Americans in the game.
Good luck to the humans. I think you will need it.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
A little early for resignation, but a new problem has developed, we have a kamikaze pilot it cat, who looks like he is going for my vote is above discussion approach....which you gus don't know but I know looks like a must lynch auto kill on me, and thus the loss of the game
I have to decide between pushing all my chips in and hope we get a wolf, or addressing cats recklessness right now, you vote me at least twice in every game we play together and Im not sure you've ever been right about me...we also have a group of people with a known wolf in it.
Amyway, now have to think about this
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I have to decide between pushing all my chips in and hope we get a wolf, or addressing cats recklessness right now, you vote me at least twice in every game we play together and Im not sure you've ever been right about me...we also have a group of people with a known wolf in it.
Amyway, now have to think about this
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Voting change to cat just to prevent a rush...and just because
I will do my due diligence s lil later and look back at the game, (while watching the Eagles go to 4 - 7 ) some stuff even back in round 1 ( deb voters ) that will prove useful
Also, if we shoot havs, we should be approving team 2 I think, but we may not be so tough to anticipate
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I will do my due diligence s lil later and look back at the game, (while watching the Eagles go to 4 - 7 ) some stuff even back in round 1 ( deb voters ) that will prove useful
Also, if we shoot havs, we should be approving team 2 I think, but we may not be so tough to anticipate
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Actually let's just do this now.....
ROUND 1
- Jayo (with Deb being overshadowed by 2 other inactives..and a long gone kajish) votes Deb and shortly after kajish arrives urges others to switch to a non-voter (at that point Tomatoes or Deb) Jayo/Deb doesnt make too much sense in light of this.
- HABS, who def hates inactives, oddly has no interest in voting an inactive (prefering to maintain a vote on Jayo) despite a comment about Tomatoes consistent inactivity, if she was partnered with Deb this would have been an easy moment to go with Tomatoes, so it may be possible Deb/HABS is a less likely team, not nowhere near as confident as that as I am in Deb/Jayo
- Slamm '"leaves [her] vote where it is since its just an SPV" this vote mind you. This was a vote on 'now' active Kajish, and just after Deb and
Tomatoes arrived on scene.. I guess it doesnt say much, but this annoyingly widespread concept that an SPV is a sacred vote that doesnt need to be addressed or contemplated if the game situation changes needs to end.
-HABS/Cat/Jess/ all face a choice when presented with a 4-4 or roughly so tie between Deb/Tom. Cat leaves his vote on Deb and doesnt give any indication he is the least bit concerned over the situation. HABS doesnt act whatsoever, Jess leaves her vote on Tom...I also was involved and could be a reasonable partner with Deb, but I have the advantage of knowing I'm not
Conclusions
Jayo/Deb is def not partnership
Deb/Cat probably unlikely
Deb/HABS a little on the unlikely side but not so sure
ROUND 2
A lot of tiny things as no major majorities were formed. A couple votes onto Slamm, Jayo was in small jeapordy at one point but nothing strong enough really to conclude anything. I could list the accusations that appeared, but they were all basically singular accusations that didnt quite put anyone in mortal peril. (i.e. Evi on Cat and Jess on Slamm...i think)
Conclusions....very little of note
ROUND 3
lost my steam, but just have some generic thoughts in my head. Deb is very reluctant to vote all game. She is occasionally like this in either role, but as human she often has a certain aggressive spunk to her...though sometimes so as a wolf as well Evi/Cat is looking less likely...Slamm is also very balky this game, she has never been the most aggressive/direct and unflappable player, but she does seem to be changing with the winds throughout the game.....
Coupled with the group failings I think we have some info to work with. I also dont think Evi is a wolf. With it being Harry's game I think she would be inclined to be involved as a wolf...but i guess cold say the same thing if she was human, iunno. She was also a team leader, if she is a wolf, would she elect another wolf to her team? Something we would have to consider going forward
Basically, we know one of
Evi
Jayo
HABS
Deb
Jessy
is a wolf, and there are several people I dont think work as wolves with Deb. Deb if you ARE human, this would be a good time to let us know so I can narrow out imo, both Cat and Jayo
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
ROUND 1
- Jayo (with Deb being overshadowed by 2 other inactives..and a long gone kajish) votes Deb and shortly after kajish arrives urges others to switch to a non-voter (at that point Tomatoes or Deb) Jayo/Deb doesnt make too much sense in light of this.
- HABS, who def hates inactives, oddly has no interest in voting an inactive (prefering to maintain a vote on Jayo) despite a comment about Tomatoes consistent inactivity, if she was partnered with Deb this would have been an easy moment to go with Tomatoes, so it may be possible Deb/HABS is a less likely team, not nowhere near as confident as that as I am in Deb/Jayo
- Slamm '"leaves [her] vote where it is since its just an SPV" this vote mind you. This was a vote on 'now' active Kajish, and just after Deb and
Tomatoes arrived on scene.. I guess it doesnt say much, but this annoyingly widespread concept that an SPV is a sacred vote that doesnt need to be addressed or contemplated if the game situation changes needs to end.
-HABS/Cat/Jess/ all face a choice when presented with a 4-4 or roughly so tie between Deb/Tom. Cat leaves his vote on Deb and doesnt give any indication he is the least bit concerned over the situation. HABS doesnt act whatsoever, Jess leaves her vote on Tom...I also was involved and could be a reasonable partner with Deb, but I have the advantage of knowing I'm not
Conclusions
Jayo/Deb is def not partnership
Deb/Cat probably unlikely
Deb/HABS a little on the unlikely side but not so sure
ROUND 2
A lot of tiny things as no major majorities were formed. A couple votes onto Slamm, Jayo was in small jeapordy at one point but nothing strong enough really to conclude anything. I could list the accusations that appeared, but they were all basically singular accusations that didnt quite put anyone in mortal peril. (i.e. Evi on Cat and Jess on Slamm...i think)
Conclusions....very little of note
ROUND 3
lost my steam, but just have some generic thoughts in my head. Deb is very reluctant to vote all game. She is occasionally like this in either role, but as human she often has a certain aggressive spunk to her...though sometimes so as a wolf as well Evi/Cat is looking less likely...Slamm is also very balky this game, she has never been the most aggressive/direct and unflappable player, but she does seem to be changing with the winds throughout the game.....
Coupled with the group failings I think we have some info to work with. I also dont think Evi is a wolf. With it being Harry's game I think she would be inclined to be involved as a wolf...but i guess cold say the same thing if she was human, iunno. She was also a team leader, if she is a wolf, would she elect another wolf to her team? Something we would have to consider going forward
Basically, we know one of
Evi
Jayo
HABS
Deb
Jessy
is a wolf, and there are several people I dont think work as wolves with Deb. Deb if you ARE human, this would be a good time to let us know so I can narrow out imo, both Cat and Jayo
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Wolves have a TB, wouldn't be an awful strategy if one or two were to suspect each other for camouflage
I think Evi is a worthwhile shout too, and if she is a wolf then I think she would have invited a fellow wolf into the fold.
Basically my thinking for that is if one of the wolves got snagged then they alone could possibly be thought responsible for the missions failure
If Evi is human then she just got unlucky with her picks
Voting Evi for now, I maintain Habs is a good shout and Jess is more vociferous than usual, and I don't think I've played with Jess being furry before
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I think Evi is a worthwhile shout too, and if she is a wolf then I think she would have invited a fellow wolf into the fold.
Basically my thinking for that is if one of the wolves got snagged then they alone could possibly be thought responsible for the missions failure
If Evi is human then she just got unlucky with her picks
Voting Evi for now, I maintain Habs is a good shout and Jess is more vociferous than usual, and I don't think I've played with Jess being furry before
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
You are right, there is still plenty of time left in the game for things to change. However, given the pace of the game and low activity level, coupled with the fact that many of the Americans (half the players in the game) will be busy with Thanksgiving, I thought I'd put it out there early.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I agree Jayo, in this sitch it's almost a lock the wolves would be ready to sell each other out.
Not sure if I have a conclusion for that yet or not
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Not sure if I have a conclusion for that yet or not
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
mnkgyl wrote:
That is correct! The mission reward to flip an ID can only be used starting next round. (if the mission fails)
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I think the ID flipping is not applicable to this round shot. Harry's comments needed on this.
That is correct! The mission reward to flip an ID can only be used starting next round. (if the mission fails)
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Why is deb not voting for someone on the fail team anyway ?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
morning and happy thanksgiving and happy day to the non americans
I want to commend jayo on using the word vociferous one can say dan is always vociferous good word
ya'll are making some good points and kinda swaying me back and forth
but monkey avoided my question, which was a simple one, which spikes me even more
dan, dan, dan, baby we have had this discussion many times, you know I am decisively indecisive at times(another discussion we had) and it is true, I can be, I want to make the right decision, lives are depending on it! you complain that this is a game of deception where you have to lie
and vociferously go after me because I don't, now you want me to tell you(yes relying on my honesty) to help you whittle down suspects. really??
REALLY!!
staying with monkey for now
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I want to commend jayo on using the word vociferous one can say dan is always vociferous good word
ya'll are making some good points and kinda swaying me back and forth
but monkey avoided my question, which was a simple one, which spikes me even more
dan, dan, dan, baby we have had this discussion many times, you know I am decisively indecisive at times(another discussion we had) and it is true, I can be, I want to make the right decision, lives are depending on it! you complain that this is a game of deception where you have to lie
and vociferously go after me because I don't, now you want me to tell you(yes relying on my honesty) to help you whittle down suspects. really??
REALLY!!
staying with monkey for now
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oh my gosh, can't I vote who I think??
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Happy thanksgiving!
Also putting in a placement vote. I'm assuming there will be little activity today but I'll be checking in.
Also putting in a placement vote. I'm assuming there will be little activity today but I'll be checking in.
Deb trying to guilt trip me perhaps deb is a solid vote, we shall see
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
With the TB I doubt the wolves will be panicking but anyways, here's the state of play for future reference
13.5 hrs left
Day
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
catmandon voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for mnkgyl
HABS2933 voted for Jess-ey
Jayo voted for Evita
Jess-ey voted for HABS2933
mnkgyl voted for HABS2933
slammngirl92 voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for catmandon
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
13.5 hrs left
Day
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
catmandon voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for mnkgyl
HABS2933 voted for Jess-ey
Jayo voted for Evita
Jess-ey voted for HABS2933
mnkgyl voted for HABS2933
slammngirl92 voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for catmandon
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
dan seriously
there is no guilt trip going on just LOGIC, you can't have it both ways(I can, but not you )
but harry is trying to make me understand(poor harry)
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there is no guilt trip going on just LOGIC, you can't have it both ways(I can, but not you )
but harry is trying to make me understand(poor harry)
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debc1 wrote:
That's right Dan. You are old enough to know that females are allowed to be irrational, illogical, and wishy-washy. We can be steadfast in our opinion on something one minute then do a complete 180 the next with absolutely no reasonable explanation whatsoever. The only reason we need is "because I said so, that's why".
Really have no read one way or the other on Deb right now, but putting ger on the back burner for the time being.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
you can't have it both ways(I can, but not you
That's right Dan. You are old enough to know that females are allowed to be irrational, illogical, and wishy-washy. We can be steadfast in our opinion on something one minute then do a complete 180 the next with absolutely no reasonable explanation whatsoever. The only reason we need is "because I said so, that's why".
Really have no read one way or the other on Deb right now, but putting ger on the back burner for the time being.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
harry is still trying to make me understand(it may be a losing battle) but he is giving it the 'ole college try'
see habs(the smarter one) understands
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see habs(the smarter one) understands
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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone (it should be as long as you're not an Eagles fan )
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ok
after heated and confusing talks with harry(thanks dear) I understand for the moment why dan said what he did about who I am voting for(this in no way means I will understand it tomorrow) but I will be changing my vote, also I still have eyes on monkey
going to have to have this thanksgiving show on the road soon, so I will change my vote and see ya'll later
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after heated and confusing talks with harry(thanks dear) I understand for the moment why dan said what he did about who I am voting for(this in no way means I will understand it tomorrow) but I will be changing my vote, also I still have eyes on monkey
going to have to have this thanksgiving show on the road soon, so I will change my vote and see ya'll later
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sorry guys, i had night shift on our fermentation and was temporarily kicked out of my apartment when i finally got home, so when i finally got back in i just passed out
after reading the round it might be stupid but i believe in spiders humanity as habs and deb stand out the most as likely wolves, but don't think both would be so voting approve, reject. For now there's not much choice in it as i'm sharing majority with habs so my vote's on her for now. so deb or habs are primary suspects to me, secondary are jayo and cat (wish there was a team with non of them in it but better let secondaries on the team over primaries)
also i apologize for making a failing team last round, i was thinking wolves were more likely to fail it round 2, so i took all the players that had been on both succeding teams and added jess who i, at that point, trusted more than mnk, who i couldn't read, and spider, who's analyzing was kinda missing. looks like to me that we had at least one wolf in all teams till now though
Now i haven't had a real meal since lunch yesterday so i'm off to find food
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
after reading the round it might be stupid but i believe in spiders humanity as habs and deb stand out the most as likely wolves, but don't think both would be so voting approve, reject. For now there's not much choice in it as i'm sharing majority with habs so my vote's on her for now. so deb or habs are primary suspects to me, secondary are jayo and cat (wish there was a team with non of them in it but better let secondaries on the team over primaries)
also i apologize for making a failing team last round, i was thinking wolves were more likely to fail it round 2, so i took all the players that had been on both succeding teams and added jess who i, at that point, trusted more than mnk, who i couldn't read, and spider, who's analyzing was kinda missing. looks like to me that we had at least one wolf in all teams till now though
Now i haven't had a real meal since lunch yesterday so i'm off to find food
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
Evi, you can have my leftovers. I have so much food
i accept when can you get it to me? can you deliver during my next night shift too?
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
Of course we made extra of everything, plus dessert.
Approx. 6hrs 45 minutes left
Evita voted for HABS2933
Jess-ey voted for HABS2933
mnkgyl voted for HABS2933
debc1 voted for Evita
HABS2933 voted for Evita
Jayo voted for Evita
catmandon voted for The_Spider
slammngirl92 voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for debc
Though I suspect Jess more than Evita, I have changed to tie things up and give myself a chance.
I don't not suspect Evi, so it is not entirely self serving.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Evita voted for HABS2933
Jess-ey voted for HABS2933
mnkgyl voted for HABS2933
debc1 voted for Evita
HABS2933 voted for Evita
Jayo voted for Evita
catmandon voted for The_Spider
slammngirl92 voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for debc
Though I suspect Jess more than Evita, I have changed to tie things up and give myself a chance.
I don't not suspect Evi, so it is not entirely self serving.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Slammin deserves a serious serious look here, her behavior is highly highly suspicious, the game is at a climax and she has am off vote and is chatting about food.
Will vote habs over evi, bow bout slamming votes...hmmm
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Will vote habs over evi, bow bout slamming votes...hmmm
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I am at home , very nice dinner, no tears
will keep my vote as is
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will keep my vote as is
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Slammin probly most deserves a bullet here, I really really wish I could shoot u right now slamm, but will go forth and vote habs :/
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
There was nothing in the game I had to discuss the game since no one was even all that active today. We have 48 hour rounds, it wasn't like I talked about food the whole time.
Anyways, there's one hour left and Even though I don't know about the habs shot I'm just going to end the round.
Anyways, there's one hour left and Even though I don't know about the habs shot I'm just going to end the round.
Habs was RESISTANCE (Human)
And the mission is on....team 1
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And the mission is on....team 1
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