The Werewolf Game
Game #3157: Wolf Etiquette???
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Thank you mnkgyl.
I have noticed that at end game, the wolves have a tendency to wait on the humans. This is of course because they can close out the game with one wrong choice. What tendencies have you noticed about wolf play?
Although I won't be revealing identities until tomorrow at the beginning of the day, pay attention for a potential clue tonight. This was promised during the zero round introduction.
I went back and read my original statement. It is time for a clearing clue - sorry to the player that the random number generator determined!
Janet Reno and the American Revolution have this in common.
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Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Thank you mnkgyl.
I have noticed that at end game, the wolves have a tendency to wait on the humans. This is of course because they can close out the game with one wrong choice. What tendencies have you noticed about wolf play?
Although I won't be revealing identities until tomorrow at the beginning of the day, pay attention for a potential clue tonight. This was promised during the zero round introduction.
I went back and read my original statement. It is time for a clearing clue - sorry to the player that the random number generator determined!
Janet Reno and the American Revolution have this in common.
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Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Only two hours night
Does that mean we have only one wolf left????
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Does that mean we have only one wolf left????
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
Wow! That was a really quick night. I'm going to wait and see if we are given info from Mod on whether we shot another wolf before I vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Another Sonic voter bites the dust
I suppose in hindsight, it is reasonable that neither a Dawn nor Brain voter was eaten as it could hint at who the wolf was (though it is also interesting that the wolves did not attempt to muddy the waters by potentially giving a false lead...for example by eating me if Brain was the wolf to implicate Dawn)
Will have to think about this, Jayo was likely human, and I do think he threw in the towel quite a bit early
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
froggygg wrote:
Unless he changed his mind, Scrub indicated he would be revealing at the beginning of each odd round.
I'm also going to have to give this more thought, but I'll be back. Meanwhile, I'm going to continue my sonic vote. Nothing has happened to change my mind about that.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Wow! That was a really quick night. I'm going to wait and see if we are given info from Mod on whether we shot another wolf before I vote.
Unless he changed his mind, Scrub indicated he would be revealing at the beginning of each odd round.
I'm also going to have to give this more thought, but I'll be back. Meanwhile, I'm going to continue my sonic vote. Nothing has happened to change my mind about that.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
The only thing we should discuss before pursuing a Sonic vote is the potential implications of the tie last round (i.e. does shooting sonic prevent us from maximizing the information given to us last/this round? maybe it does maybe it doesnt )
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
If you think about it, though, that gives me a lower chance of being a wolf. I wouldn't eat someone who suspected me thrice, and I especially would stop after someone caught on.
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that was quick
and for the record I did just go to Sonic's page not the game thing
I don't know
sonic would be the only one I sort of suspect
we have time, need some input from others
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and for the record I did just go to Sonic's page not the game thing
I don't know
sonic would be the only one I sort of suspect
we have time, need some input from others
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Only one you sort of suspect....I dont know if I buy that after last round Deb
Deb darling...should I be voting you
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Deb darling...should I be voting you
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
no sweetie you don't need to vote me
what am I missing?
you know I always suspect you, but then again to me your normal
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what am I missing?
you know I always suspect you, but then again to me your normal
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You don't think it's suspicious that the only person you sort of suspect...was the person you could have shot last round and chose not to
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
As everyone's vote is on hold .. I would also like to do the same ..
But I may not be able to return tomorrow on time .. so will join the sonic vote .. I think I had suspicions on him in last round too .. I don;t have strong suspicions .. so I may change my vote later ..
But I may not be able to return tomorrow on time .. so will join the sonic vote .. I think I had suspicions on him in last round too .. I don;t have strong suspicions .. so I may change my vote later ..
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I actually think its possible under this format that shooting both has some inherent value (not convinced but its possible) that being said.....this is a suspicious turn of events
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I suspect TheSpider: He's been trying to pile votes on me quite a lot. He's also trying to get other people to think certain people - such as deb, is the wolf and helping me.
Ally or die. That is the motto of the new, REVAMPED version of Alliances I currently have. Alliances is a social game to the style of WWG and WTB. To learn more and/or play, PM me or check the public talkboxes. Come for a fun game!
Ally or die. That is the motto of the new, REVAMPED version of Alliances I currently have. Alliances is a social game to the style of WWG and WTB. To learn more and/or play, PM me or check the public talkboxes. Come for a fun game!
Not much has been posted to point at anyone except Sonic. My first thought is to join the vote for Sonic which would give him three votes and none for anyone else. I'm just not sure he is a wolf or being set up to look like one.
I notice that Talan has been unusually quiet this game and that makes me a little suspicious that he may be a wolf flying under the radar. Other than the point made about Sonic never being a wolf before (thought to be a slip up) I have no other flags going up. This is a hard game to read much into.
For now, I'm going to vote for Talan but will probably come back and change my vote to Sonic.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I notice that Talan has been unusually quiet this game and that makes me a little suspicious that he may be a wolf flying under the radar. Other than the point made about Sonic never being a wolf before (thought to be a slip up) I have no other flags going up. This is a hard game to read much into.
For now, I'm going to vote for Talan but will probably come back and change my vote to Sonic.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
So presumably Sonic, you no longer think Dawn was a wolf?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
What? There are multiple wolves. I am saying you and dawnrising are wolves.
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I know...read round 2 and get back to me on that ;)
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Please read post at the beginning of the day.
Most other games.by the time we reach round 4 I have solid ideas who a couple
of the wolfs are..
Not so sure this time..
Will vote with the group''
If sonic turns out to be human,
Spider is next..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
of the wolfs are..
Not so sure this time..
Will vote with the group''
If sonic turns out to be human,
Spider is next..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
I suspect spider more than sonic. He has been targeting sonic since start of the game. It is possible that he will eat sonic voters and then accuse sonic of being a wolf. Putting my vote on spider as of now.
BUT I CAN BE WRONG, VERY VERY WRONG
As for the clue, it is based on US history and politics, so completely out of my reach and I don't think Wikipedia will help in any way
The wolves have to do many things to get a win. I don't think waiting on someone to make a mistake is a big deal.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
BUT I CAN BE WRONG, VERY VERY WRONG
As for the clue, it is based on US history and politics, so completely out of my reach and I don't think Wikipedia will help in any way
The wolves have to do many things to get a win. I don't think waiting on someone to make a mistake is a big deal.
Every problem can be solved with a trick but finding that trick itself needs another trick.
The mounting suspicion of me is serious faulty, if dawn was a wolf (just about 50/50 ) your Gonna feEl pretty stupid.
Be in soon to expand
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Be in soon to expand
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
As to the clue, this is all I could connect the two with: Janet Reno has listed membership in the Daughters of the American Revolution.
So, who does that clear?
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
So, who does that clear?
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Yes, I'm quiet, it's true. Busy life I suppose. No, I don't really expect you to believe me.
No solid info about n who the remainder by the wolves are. Still have a feeling about spider but not even enough t cast a vote at the moment. Will continue to ponder.
No solid info about n who the remainder by the wolves are. Still have a feeling about spider but not even enough t cast a vote at the moment. Will continue to ponder.
I've been targeting sonic snice the beggining of the game? How did you arrive at that monkey? I don't think I even mentioned his name in rounds 1 or 2 and proceeded to vote him in round 3. In round 4, I expressed alarm at the quickness that those who previously protected sonic by voting jayo are now suspecting sonic (myself having not even voted sonic). My stance on sonic being the blind round might mean shooting him could be worthwile.
I repeat yet again (no one who suspects me seems even interested in adressing it) I am the only player (pending the next update from scrubb) who has Definitely voted for a wolf.
I will work on the clue and hope for some interesting ideas come morning
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I repeat yet again (no one who suspects me seems even interested in adressing it) I am the only player (pending the next update from scrubb) who has Definitely voted for a wolf.
I will work on the clue and hope for some interesting ideas come morning
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I see what dan is saying and I would totally agree on his humanness except for maybe round 1
bussing an inactive is within the realm of acceptable behavior
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bussing an inactive is within the realm of acceptable behavior
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I'm not saying Im clear and cant be voted for, but anyone voting me must at least be able to reconcile or overcome this fact. Its not enough to say Spider is suspicious and just brush this aside, this evidence in my favor must be weighed one way or the other. (yes I could have bussed but being a blind game this is less neccessary)
I actual find Scrubbs Round 4 questions/prompt spot on the money, but I will save my response for the morning as i am just about to call it a night
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I actual find Scrubbs Round 4 questions/prompt spot on the money, but I will save my response for the morning as i am just about to call it a night
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I don't know maybe the wolves are playing it cool and I have not picked up on anything
sonic would be a good patsy, but who pointed that out?
I think I will go...FOR NOW THAT IS NOT SET IN STONE someone who hasn't said to much
which is cat
I really am not happy with any of my choices but someone has to be a wolf
I am sure dan will show me the error of my ways and I will wait for his logical reason so I will feel stupid and change my vote
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sonic would be a good patsy, but who pointed that out?
I think I will go...FOR NOW THAT IS NOT SET IN STONE someone who hasn't said to much
which is cat
I really am not happy with any of my choices but someone has to be a wolf
I am sure dan will show me the error of my ways and I will wait for his logical reason so I will feel stupid and change my vote
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no I would say you would be clear if anyone other than master was a wolf
and yes I changed my mind, this is where my indecisiveness kicks in
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and yes I changed my mind, this is where my indecisiveness kicks in
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first the Round question:
You're spot on about the wolves waiting on humans. It's almost the biggest giveaway when a person continues to push off voting in must lynch. The frustrating part is that people seem to have this totally backwards and are often weary of early must lynch votes, calling them "wolfish" when it is almost a lock in my experience an early must lynch vote comes from a human.
As for other tendencies, nothing really jumps right out at me. I notice when wolves post a list containing more than 2 people (I suspect X,Y and Z) you can garauntee one of them is a wolf. Naturally some smart alec will post X,Y,Z with no wolves now
Looking back, I again can't see how Jayo is a wolf (with the exception of Sonic being his parter..which would still be very strange but still possible.) I say this because if Im Jayos wolf partner, we are having a closed door meeting right now about him giving himself up for no real reason. It would just be an affront to his partner to do that. If Sonic is his partner again, that concern is gone, but it would still be strange and I wouldnt bet on it (but still possible).
My observations:
Bradon has been consistent in her approach so I cannot find fault there.
It's just not natural to vote person X when they are in a close race with person Y, and then next round (without Xs identity) vote person Y because you suspect them. I find deb, but to a greater extent Ankit's play of a Jayo/Sonic voting suspect.
Talan and Cat are pretty quiet, I never know how to examine Cat so I just hope someone else finds something wolfish or human about him and just roll with it.
Monkey/Froggy seem kind of human to me, but the format of the game is generally blunting my confidence in my reads.
Will see if I can make headway on the clue.
Ok, I found how I think the clue could fit for someone...partly....but cant find the Janet Reno connection. Its an incomplete solution but even still will not share what Im thinking unless it becomes neccessary
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
You're spot on about the wolves waiting on humans. It's almost the biggest giveaway when a person continues to push off voting in must lynch. The frustrating part is that people seem to have this totally backwards and are often weary of early must lynch votes, calling them "wolfish" when it is almost a lock in my experience an early must lynch vote comes from a human.
As for other tendencies, nothing really jumps right out at me. I notice when wolves post a list containing more than 2 people (I suspect X,Y and Z) you can garauntee one of them is a wolf. Naturally some smart alec will post X,Y,Z with no wolves now
Looking back, I again can't see how Jayo is a wolf (with the exception of Sonic being his parter..which would still be very strange but still possible.) I say this because if Im Jayos wolf partner, we are having a closed door meeting right now about him giving himself up for no real reason. It would just be an affront to his partner to do that. If Sonic is his partner again, that concern is gone, but it would still be strange and I wouldnt bet on it (but still possible).
My observations:
Bradon has been consistent in her approach so I cannot find fault there.
It's just not natural to vote person X when they are in a close race with person Y, and then next round (without Xs identity) vote person Y because you suspect them. I find deb, but to a greater extent Ankit's play of a Jayo/Sonic voting suspect.
Talan and Cat are pretty quiet, I never know how to examine Cat so I just hope someone else finds something wolfish or human about him and just roll with it.
Monkey/Froggy seem kind of human to me, but the format of the game is generally blunting my confidence in my reads.
Will see if I can make headway on the clue.
Ok, I found how I think the clue could fit for someone...partly....but cant find the Janet Reno connection. Its an incomplete solution but even still will not share what Im thinking unless it becomes neccessary
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The point of shooting sonic is this: If we are told we shot 1 wolf next round, we should conclude it was sonic (see my above post) because I dont see Jayo being a wolf with anyone else. Then again whoever we shoot, if we are told we shot one wolf we should conclude it was this shot for the same reason essentially
Does anyone have any ideas, potential other options? If Jayo/Sonic both humans those who piled on both become very suspect
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Does anyone have any ideas, potential other options? If Jayo/Sonic both humans those who piled on both become very suspect
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
As of now we have been told we lost the Seer and 1 wolf. So, let's say we shoot sonic and of course another human will be eaten and we are then told we have now lost 2 wolves. In my mind I'll be sure Sonic was a wolf. Unless Jayo has totally changed his game play, I can't for the life of me see him allowing himself as a wolf to go down without a fight. Of course, if in that same scenario we are told we remain at 1 wolf down, at least have a better idea of what's what and we need to look at things differently. I know I'm saying pretty much the same thing as what Spider said, but I needed to put my thoughts down in writing.
I think we should also be mindful of who voted for HP I think. I do believe that our Seer was Who and she told us HP was human and I also believe that I am not the only one who would have seen this. So, I wonder if maybe Deb is on to something.
I will definitely give this more thought and look for more input from others before I make my final vote choice.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I think we should also be mindful of who voted for HP I think. I do believe that our Seer was Who and she told us HP was human and I also believe that I am not the only one who would have seen this. So, I wonder if maybe Deb is on to something.
I will definitely give this more thought and look for more input from others before I make my final vote choice.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I will tell you who I could likely vote for this round and who I probably wouldnt vote for
Good Chance
Sonic -
Again I still have legit suspicions but the voting is odd. Last round we had 4 votes on Jayo (Sonic - Deb - Ank - Froggy) and 3 votes on Sonic (HP - Spid - Bradon). I know two of these are human, and Bradon was consistent from the jump on voting Sonic so I am not weary of the motives of ANY of these voters.
This round we have 3 votes on Sonic (Bradon - Ank - Cat)..and Deb expressed suspicion though has seemed to rethink her stance just a little since then. I trust Bradon's vote at least since it is consistent, but Ank's and Cat's vote (with threat to me should Sonic be human) are troubling.
Cat -
I dont have a strong feel either way, but I am certainly not adverse to voting off a player who would preemptively state intentions to target me
Ank -
I have mixed thoughts on this
No Vote
Bradon - Dont see anything off yet
Monkey - Not very confident in it, but see little purpose in shooting him at this juncture
Medium
Talan - Kinda quiet but seems unconcerned about it and not overcompensating in any way, so not 'wolfish quiet'
Froggy, Deb - could be convinced, maybe not
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Good Chance
Sonic -
Again I still have legit suspicions but the voting is odd. Last round we had 4 votes on Jayo (Sonic - Deb - Ank - Froggy) and 3 votes on Sonic (HP - Spid - Bradon). I know two of these are human, and Bradon was consistent from the jump on voting Sonic so I am not weary of the motives of ANY of these voters.
This round we have 3 votes on Sonic (Bradon - Ank - Cat)..and Deb expressed suspicion though has seemed to rethink her stance just a little since then. I trust Bradon's vote at least since it is consistent, but Ank's and Cat's vote (with threat to me should Sonic be human) are troubling.
Cat -
I dont have a strong feel either way, but I am certainly not adverse to voting off a player who would preemptively state intentions to target me
Ank -
I have mixed thoughts on this
No Vote
Bradon - Dont see anything off yet
Monkey - Not very confident in it, but see little purpose in shooting him at this juncture
Medium
Talan - Kinda quiet but seems unconcerned about it and not overcompensating in any way, so not 'wolfish quiet'
Froggy, Deb - could be convinced, maybe not
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
morning
I was just thinking about it, sonic
I don't know if I ever played with him, don't know his style, which probably hasn't developed yet
would he go after people that voted for him as a wolf?
yep he is newish and that would be a newish thing to do
but both wolves would have to be hip with that
maybe sonic and a strategic wolf as pairs?
now I am second guessing my self
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I was just thinking about it, sonic
I don't know if I ever played with him, don't know his style, which probably hasn't developed yet
would he go after people that voted for him as a wolf?
yep he is newish and that would be a newish thing to do
but both wolves would have to be hip with that
maybe sonic and a strategic wolf as pairs?
now I am second guessing my self
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Going to change my vote to shake things up..
Less then 2 hours left..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Less then 2 hours left..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
I hate being one of two humans left with a wolf and having to decide who is who. it is so much better when you are confident that you know who is the wolf
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See this is the kind of play I find completely aggravating. Why throw away a full 50% chance that I am totally clear (Dawn is a wolf) for absolutely no reason? This is just recklessness for no reason at all. If someone says, I understand Spider may have voted for Dawn (and Brain) but reasons X,Y,Z to me, outweigh that. Fair enough, I can live with that....but this is..sorry to say...just a foolish approach. (not to mention it merely forces my hand and probably Debs hand if she wishes to reinforce what was said earlier) Again Im the only person whos def voted a wolf and yet all I have to defend myself against is charges of 'i have a feeling'
I was going to comment I might switch to froggy, but not now
(though I could still vote Cat if others say they would be game...since i forsee this as a 'see it through till Spider or I am dead' type votes)
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I was going to comment I might switch to froggy, but not now
(though I could still vote Cat if others say they would be game...since i forsee this as a 'see it through till Spider or I am dead' type votes)
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
we still have sonic and tal yet to vote
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With the shift in voting, I would be willing to change my vote to Cat. I doubt talanpoe will be able to vote within the next 45 minutes or so (I could be wrong however) and it would be interesting to see how Sonic would vote, maybe very telling.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I can switch to Cat.
Monkey and Froggy have been, deliberately quiet.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Monkey and Froggy have been, deliberately quiet.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
monkey im gunnin for you next round
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The player cleared in the clearing clue is still in the game.
Extra Hint: What is Janet Reno most famous (infamous?) for?
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Extra Hint: What is Janet Reno most famous (infamous?) for?
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