The Werewolf Game
Game #3169: THE RESISTANCE (2/1)
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The Commander lives!!
2 spies remain.
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2 spies remain.
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OK I so had a feeling rene was up next.
I read a lot of posts from previous rounds and I have a theory: Spider and Jayo. Will discuss in detail later. SPVing.
I read a lot of posts from previous rounds and I have a theory: Spider and Jayo. Will discuss in detail later. SPVing.
Spv for now, way way way too long a night...again...
Well semi spv, I suspect windsor/jessey atm
No dupe votes until we hear from everyone
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well semi spv, I suspect windsor/jessey atm
No dupe votes until we hear from everyone
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
i put the new info into my chart but it's giving very confusing results :S
btw, you guys should read liar game it ended now so there'll be no waiting for new chapters
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It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
btw, you guys should read liar game it ended now so there'll be no waiting for new chapters
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It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
Seriously guys. Tomatoes.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's a disease, not a punch line
Alright so here it goes.
For this discussion you must keep in mind the three teams from the first round. I will post the teams below with only the people remaining (all humans from the teams deleted). And remember that at least ONE of these teams is entirely human:
Team 1
- whoviandeb
- windsor_babe
Team 2
- Jayo
- Evita
- Tomatoes
- The_Spider
Team 3
- Jayo
- The_Spider
I think Jayo and Spider (oh, yes, The_Spider) are wolves. Look at these posts by Spider:
Round 1:
Of course! Had we shot any of these two earlier and found if they were a wolf we could have cleared the entire Team 1 easily. I did not get it back in round 1 but now I sure do.
Anyway then came poor old MCD (who I think is a newbie) with this in round 1:
Nobody noticed that where did MCD come up with that in round 1 but it kinda makes sense for a noob wolf to make that rookie mistake of saying "my fellow wolves are human" early in the game. And THIS I think is when pro Spid decided to pull off a neat lets-kill-the-noob-and-become-a-hero stunt. Of course killing a wolf in round 1 or 2 would earn him the trust of everyone. He then said we should kill someone who is not on these three teams (Jess, Bradon, and MCD) and voted for MCD. Notice how he never brought up voting for Jess or Bradon (the other members not on any team) again. He changed his vote to join the Coolchick majority in round 1 but insisted on MDC in round 2, got what he wanted and voila, everyone completely trusts him.
Here is some more of Spid in round 1:
These are just messages he is sending over to jayo to not to fail the mission. If you read round 1 again you will notice the between the lines exchanges between Spid and Jayo.
Moving on, in the next round the wolves still decided not to fail a mission because that just gives out too much info. However, I think they wanted to fail the third mission but unfortunately none of them were on the last team and so that mission succeeded. The two people alive from the last team are Jess and windsor. If windsor was a wolf she would have failed it because I know she does not like the idea of a seer box.
Anyway the bottom line is we MUST shoot Spid or Jayo this round because that is the best possible option. Because if we shoot either of them and they turn out to be a wolf then we can clear TWO humans: whovi and windsor. If we shoot anyone else and they are a wolf we would still be unable to find the last wolf. God knows what the seer is doing.
That is all. I am going to sleep now. Good luck humans, think before you vote.
For this discussion you must keep in mind the three teams from the first round. I will post the teams below with only the people remaining (all humans from the teams deleted). And remember that at least ONE of these teams is entirely human:
Team 1
- whoviandeb
- windsor_babe
Team 2
- Jayo
- Evita
- Tomatoes
- The_Spider
Team 3
- Jayo
- The_Spider
I think Jayo and Spider (oh, yes, The_Spider) are wolves. Look at these posts by Spider:
Round 1:
if Jayo (or myself) basically any one listed in two separate groups is a wolf, we will immeadeatly know which group is the human group and thus we can clear 5 humans (this pattern could be utilized at any point in the game and placing wolves in these groups even down the road could lead to significant reduction of suspects.)
Of course! Had we shot any of these two earlier and found if they were a wolf we could have cleared the entire Team 1 easily. I did not get it back in round 1 but now I sure do.
Anyway then came poor old MCD (who I think is a newbie) with this in round 1:
I'm gonna lean toward Jayo and spid being human and half-and-half on evi. will add more when more ppl check in
Nobody noticed that where did MCD come up with that in round 1 but it kinda makes sense for a noob wolf to make that rookie mistake of saying "my fellow wolves are human" early in the game. And THIS I think is when pro Spid decided to pull off a neat lets-kill-the-noob-and-become-a-hero stunt. Of course killing a wolf in round 1 or 2 would earn him the trust of everyone. He then said we should kill someone who is not on these three teams (Jess, Bradon, and MCD) and voted for MCD. Notice how he never brought up voting for Jess or Bradon (the other members not on any team) again. He changed his vote to join the Coolchick majority in round 1 but insisted on MDC in round 2, got what he wanted and voila, everyone completely trusts him.
Here is some more of Spid in round 1:
I don't really see a good reason for a wolf to ever vote to fail a mission...all it does is needlessly narrow the suspect pool. The only really possible reason is to prevent the humans from winning their reward, so they might be wise to play for one fail maximum (they really need to expect to hit the seer by the 5th anyway or its over in a more conventional sense).
I suppose this discussion is only helping the wolves get clarity but I'd like to discuss it anyway. The real danger of a fail (provided we at least know WHICH group is elected to do the missions) is that we know that group is not the all human group, and therefore we then are one step closer to learning 5 human IDs (ie if group A produces a fail, group B or C must contain 5 humans) If the wolves push another fail (depending on the team structure going forward) it may lead to even more revelation.
Well I'm not sure if I agree, but one thing is for sure is that the humans have a massive advantage here. If the missions succeed we have an even more powerful seer (provided he survives 3 round)..Three fails will likely leave the wolves completely exposed and being granted a 'short list' of seer candidates isn't all that helpful as by Round 4 they have probably reduced it to a short list as is.
I suppose this discussion is only helping the wolves get clarity but I'd like to discuss it anyway. The real danger of a fail (provided we at least know WHICH group is elected to do the missions) is that we know that group is not the all human group, and therefore we then are one step closer to learning 5 human IDs (ie if group A produces a fail, group B or C must contain 5 humans) If the wolves push another fail (depending on the team structure going forward) it may lead to even more revelation.
Well I'm not sure if I agree, but one thing is for sure is that the humans have a massive advantage here. If the missions succeed we have an even more powerful seer (provided he survives 3 round)..Three fails will likely leave the wolves completely exposed and being granted a 'short list' of seer candidates isn't all that helpful as by Round 4 they have probably reduced it to a short list as is.
These are just messages he is sending over to jayo to not to fail the mission. If you read round 1 again you will notice the between the lines exchanges between Spid and Jayo.
Moving on, in the next round the wolves still decided not to fail a mission because that just gives out too much info. However, I think they wanted to fail the third mission but unfortunately none of them were on the last team and so that mission succeeded. The two people alive from the last team are Jess and windsor. If windsor was a wolf she would have failed it because I know she does not like the idea of a seer box.
Anyway the bottom line is we MUST shoot Spid or Jayo this round because that is the best possible option. Because if we shoot either of them and they turn out to be a wolf then we can clear TWO humans: whovi and windsor. If we shoot anyone else and they are a wolf we would still be unable to find the last wolf. God knows what the seer is doing.
That is all. I am going to sleep now. Good luck humans, think before you vote.
Nice analysis, unfortunately it's wrong , are u suggesting I provided the syrategy which would have doomed us immeadeatly? Had my desires been followed I'd have shot a wolf in rd1, had another divined in night 1, and in doing so, cleared 5 extra humans right away, while also eating a terrible candidate in bradon. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny
Evi need to hear some game opinion from u not just continued reference to a chart
I'd still push my chips in on windsor / jessey
Out for night so only able to post in short bursts
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Evi need to hear some game opinion from u not just continued reference to a chart
I'd still push my chips in on windsor / jessey
Out for night so only able to post in short bursts
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Tomatoes is just trying to take an offensive position this round as he's been the lucky escape artist two rounds in a row. It doesn't help his cause that he has flip flopped once again - accusing players he earlier believed to be likely humans.
Only this time, I know he made a big mistake.
I've been looking at voting patterns. Did you know that with the exception of bradon in round 1, all of the wolf meals have had one thing in common?
absy, rene, and DrHoo all voted for Tomatoes at least once.
The point of eating someone is trying to find the seer. Who better to eat than someone who suspects a wolf for no stated reason?
Eating me would have been too obvious. But these guys made quiet votes for Tomatoes - SPVs even.
I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
It's a disease, not a punch line
Only this time, I know he made a big mistake.
I've been looking at voting patterns. Did you know that with the exception of bradon in round 1, all of the wolf meals have had one thing in common?
absy, rene, and DrHoo all voted for Tomatoes at least once.
The point of eating someone is trying to find the seer. Who better to eat than someone who suspects a wolf for no stated reason?
Eating me would have been too obvious. But these guys made quiet votes for Tomatoes - SPVs even.
I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
It's a disease, not a punch line
well my tummi still points out you (@spider), jayo (and thereby all of team 3) and jess as humans, that hasn't really changed, can't promise i'm not under influence of the chart though? i think team 3 was highly likely to be a human team, by now, it's impossible for team 2 to be a human team without team 3 being it as well, but because of the doppelgangers, looking at all possible scenarios at once actually gives team 1 the lower possibility of containing wolves (apart from team jess).
i think if there's a wolf on team 2 from round 1 it's most likely tomatoes since for spider or jayo to be wolves, the human team would have to be team 1, but for tomatoes to be a wolf, the human team can be either team 1 or team 3, so it's more likely in my mind for tomatoes to a wolf than either jayo or spider, as for team 1, and with the people my tummi says are human, combined with the chart i find it highly likely the at least one of whovian and windsor is a wolf.
there's strength in numbers?
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It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
i think if there's a wolf on team 2 from round 1 it's most likely tomatoes since for spider or jayo to be wolves, the human team would have to be team 1, but for tomatoes to be a wolf, the human team can be either team 1 or team 3, so it's more likely in my mind for tomatoes to a wolf than either jayo or spider, as for team 1, and with the people my tummi says are human, combined with the chart i find it highly likely the at least one of whovian and windsor is a wolf.
there's strength in numbers?
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It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
I think windsor is a wolf because she elected zz to her team and then tried to shoot him before the results of the mission were even in. It seemed odd even at the time, but I weighed the explanation and possibility zz was a wolf favorably, now, it just seems odd.
Thanks for the insight Evi, I will think about things and look at everything again in the morning.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Thanks for the insight Evi, I will think about things and look at everything again in the morning.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Looking at round 1 teams, I think Team 3 is all human.
If team 1 has a wolf it has to be Windsor because its not me.
If team 2 has a wolf it has to be Tomatoes.
Jayo and Spider are human according to Evita's tummi and my instincts.
It's a disease, not a punch line
If team 1 has a wolf it has to be Windsor because its not me.
If team 2 has a wolf it has to be Tomatoes.
Jayo and Spider are human according to Evita's tummi and my instincts.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It was during that round that Zxcv started acting weird. I already explained the strategy to my team selection, what do you want? Hindsight being 20/20 I could have picked a better strategy, but I went for information. Sometimes information gives itself to you first. Or appears to, apparently.
Spv and check back after work tomorrow. Phones dying and so am I
Your mom's a no brainer.
Spv and check back after work tomorrow. Phones dying and so am I
Your mom's a no brainer.
whoviandeb wrote:
Now that's a cool analysis. I'm putting a pin in that. My spv is a potential actual vote based on what makes sense and without enacting a majority yet.
Your mom's a no brainer.
Tomatoes is just trying to take an offensive position this round as he's been the lucky escape artist two rounds in a row. It doesn't help his cause that he has flip flopped once again - accusing players he earlier believed to be likely humans.
Only this time, I know he made a big mistake.
I've been looking at voting patterns. Did you know that with the exception of bradon in round 1, all of the wolf meals have had one thing in common?
absy, rene, and DrHoo all voted for Tomatoes at least once.
The point of eating someone is trying to find the seer. Who better to eat than someone who suspects a wolf for no stated reason?
Eating me would have been too obvious. But these guys made quiet votes for Tomatoes - SPVs even.
I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
Only this time, I know he made a big mistake.
I've been looking at voting patterns. Did you know that with the exception of bradon in round 1, all of the wolf meals have had one thing in common?
absy, rene, and DrHoo all voted for Tomatoes at least once.
The point of eating someone is trying to find the seer. Who better to eat than someone who suspects a wolf for no stated reason?
Eating me would have been too obvious. But these guys made quiet votes for Tomatoes - SPVs even.
I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
Now that's a cool analysis. I'm putting a pin in that. My spv is a potential actual vote based on what makes sense and without enacting a majority yet.
Your mom's a no brainer.
If I listen to everyone above it seems we have about 4 wolves remaining
Since I know I'm human and that one of the teams from round 1 was completely made of humans then that should help us figure out who the wolves are.
SPV for my biggest suspect for now, probably changeable if strong evidence comes out or it the Seer has a wolf
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Since I know I'm human and that one of the teams from round 1 was completely made of humans then that should help us figure out who the wolves are.
SPV for my biggest suspect for now, probably changeable if strong evidence comes out or it the Seer has a wolf
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Next round could be must lynch, a vote before all the facts are in and evaluated is criminally stupid, there is absolutely no excuse for it whatsoever unless u are the seer
I wish I could make everyone take the oath
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I wish I could make everyone take the oath
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
i solemly swear to not vote next round before all facts are in and evaluated
like that?
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
like that?
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
Yes, that's the spirit
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
We haven't heard from Jess-y this round. The status of this mystery player intrigues me.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's a disease, not a punch line
I have food poisoning. I'm quite delirious and can only handle starring at a screen for so long.
I managed to read all the posts and I'm more conflicted than ever. I'm placing a vote on Toms since I've had a feeling about him since the beginning and at this point I don't know who to trust besides Evi. I'm actually really surprised that Evita hasn't been eaten. You know how pissed I'll be if the last two wolves are Evita and Spider....
Anywho, I also wouldn't oppose a majority on either Windsor or whovi.
I'll be back after I nap some. Right now would be awesome for the seer to come out with any information...
I managed to read all the posts and I'm more conflicted than ever. I'm placing a vote on Toms since I've had a feeling about him since the beginning and at this point I don't know who to trust besides Evi. I'm actually really surprised that Evita hasn't been eaten. You know how pissed I'll be if the last two wolves are Evita and Spider....
Anywho, I also wouldn't oppose a majority on either Windsor or whovi.
I'll be back after I nap some. Right now would be awesome for the seer to come out with any information...
Im gonna join the tomatoes party, we've heard from everyone.....no need to wait 27 hours just because we are afraid to make a move
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Fair enough, according to my calculations, tomatoes have a good chance of being a wolf so i'm ending the round
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
It's when you draw it you realize what it really looks like
TOMMY was a REBEL.
2 spies and the Commander live.
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2 spies and the Commander live.
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